Defending the Truth

Applause please

Quotes from when Clinton committed troops to Bosnia

"You can support the troops but not the president."
--Rep Tom Delay (R-TX)
"Well, I just think it's a bad idea. What's going to happen is they're going to be over there for 10, 15, maybe 20 years."
--Joe Scarborough (R-FL)
"Explain to the mothers and fathers of American servicemen that may come home in body bags why their son or daughter have to give up their life?"
--Sean Hannity, Fox News, 4/6/99
"[The] President . . . is once again releasing American military might on a foreign country with an ill-defined objective and no exit strategy. He has yet to tell the Congress how much this operation will cost. And he has not informed our nation's armed forces about how long they will be away from home. These strikes do not make for a sound foreign policy."
--Sen. Rick Santorum (R-PA)
"American foreign policy is now one huge big mystery. Simply put, the administration is trying to lead the world with a feel-good foreign policy."
--Rep Tom Delay (R-TX)
"If we are going to commit American troops, we must be certain they have a clear mission, an achievable goal and an exit strategy."
--Karen Hughes, speaking on behalf of George W Bush
"I had doubts about the bombing campaign from the beginning . . I didn't think we had done enough in the diplomatic area."
--Senator Trent Lott (R-MS)
"I cannot support a failed foreign policy. History teaches us that it is often easier to make war than peace. This administration is just learning that lesson right now. The President began this mission with very vague objectives and lots of unanswered questions. A month later, these questions are still unanswered. There are no clarified rules of engagement. There is no timetable. There is no legitimate definition of victory. There is no contingency plan for mission creep. There is no clear funding program. There is no agenda to bolster our over-extended military. There is no explanation defining what vital national interests are at stake. There was no strategic plan for war when the President started this thing, and there still is no plan today"
--Rep Tom Delay (R-TX)
"Victory means exit strategy, and it's important for the President to explain to us what the exit strategy is."
--Governor George W. Bush (R-TX)

Could this be because the Administration twisted the intelligence given to them by the CIA and other sources and that most of the Senators, Reps and Congresspeople, believed it too?

We all know Bush lied:

The president had hoped Saddam could be removed in some way short of war. But early in 2002, Woodward reports, the CIA concluded they could not overthrow Saddam. That word came from the CIA's head of Iraq operations, a man known simply as “Saul.” (Curveball?)

"Saul gets together a briefing and who does he give it to first? Dick Cheney. He said, ‘I can count the number of sources, human sources, spies we have in Iraq on one hand,’” says Woodward. “I asked the president, ‘What was your reaction that the CIA couldn't overthrow Saddam? And the president said one word. 'Darn.'"

The vice president led the way on declaring that Saddam Hussein definitely had weapons of mass destruction. Before that, the president had said only that Saddam “desires them.”

But ten days later, the vice president said Saddam already had weapons of mass destruction. And 12 days after that, the president too had apparently been persuaded: “A lot of people understand he holds weapons of mass destruction.”

Three months later, on Dec. 21, 2002, Woodward says CIA Director George Tenet brought his deputy, John McLaughlin, to the oval office to show the president and the vice president their best evidence that Saddam really had weapons of mass destruction.

”McLaughlin has access to all the satellite photos, and he goes in and he has flip charts in the oval office. The president listens to all of this and McLaughlin's done. And, and the president kind of, as he's inclined to do, says ‘Nice try, but that isn't gonna sell Joe Public. That isn't gonna convince Joe Public,’” says Woodward.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/...in612067.shtml

The president is guilty only of taking seriously what faithful friends told him. One is expected to assume that his friend the vice president, Dick Cheney, neglected to tell him that his office had ordered the uranium from Niger story checked out in February 2002 and had found there was nothing to it.

The Bush administration has distinguished itself by its inability or unwillingness to deal with allies as equals, with legitimate interests and views of their own to be respected.

This is the issue Washington obfuscates and London has refused to raise. Prime Minister Blair's support for the United States has been exploited to lend legitimacy to a war entirely conceived and controlled by Washington.

The United States has a new kind of government, which takes a new view of what allies are worth, and how they are expected to behave.

This has been an underlying issue throughout the U.S.-European drama of the past 10 months. It will determine the future of the Western alliance, as well as the character of the new European Union now being ushered into existence by an EU constitution, EU expansion and an independent EU security policy.


http://www.commondreams.org/views03/0717-04.htm

You are always bitching about the Democrats investigating this Administration's decisions. Then you bitch because they believed the Bush/Cheney supplied intel. Make up your mind please.

I am not sticking up for the Dems as personally, I think both parties cater to whoever is paying them at the time, and they all could care less about the average person. Who do you impeach when everyone in power sucks ass?

New World Fascism.

It's obvious how you feel about your beloved king! but WE the PEOPLE of the United States don't have kings!

Nothing is so unworthy of a civilized nation as allowing itself to be governed without opposition by an irresponsible clique that has yielded to base instinct. It is certain today every honest American is ashamed of his/her government. Who among us has any conception of the dimensions of shame that will befall our children and us when one day the veil has fallen from our eyes and the most horrible of crimes-crimes that infinitely outdistance every human measure-reach the light of day? If the American people are already so corrupt and spiritually dead, (which is not so), that we do not raise a hand, frivolously trusting in a questionable faith in law and order of history; if they surrender man/woman’s highest principle, that raises him/her above all other of God’s creatures, his/her freewill; if they abandon the will to take decisive action and turn the wheel of history and thus subject to their own rational decision; if they are so devoid of all individuality, become a will-less herd of hangers-on, who now with the marrow sucked out of their bones, robbed of their center of stability-are waiting to be hounded to death by treacherous, systematic abuse, the system has put every child/woman/man into a spiritual prison.

http://www.impeachbush.org/site/PageServer

Stop typing like that, dammit. My eyes hurt. Let's send hev to Washington he can be our personal regicidal maniac

Hey - if these idiots are going to ascribe omnipotent powers to him - like that he somehow skewed the information and lied to the entire United States Congress - they might as well worship him.

Completely over your head.

Let me help you out a bit: My post was sarcasm, pointing out the idiocy of Tyeray's post.

Before the war we sent 300 different American Iraqi immigrants, who were related to scientists in Saddam weapons program, go to Iraq and ask their relatives if Saddam was starting up his weapons program. Every one came back and said no. We didn't use this information because the FBI thought they were lying. Then (just a couple of days ago, in fact), I saw George Tenent on an interview with CNN saying the information passed from the CIA to the Bush administration was indicative of Saddam's lack of WMD. The CIA, he said, is now Bush's scapegoat. Bush and Cheney did twist the information. Now if you think you have some better proof than words spoken, on camera, by the Director of the CIA at the time.............