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06-24-2006, 06:39 AM
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06-24-2006, 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by tyreay Show me one post where I defended the Democrats. Your ignorance of my past writtings are your problem. | You said the reason the dems said there were WMDs and Iraq was a threat was because the Bush Administration doctored the intelligence. Then when I pointed you to quotes from the Clinton administration, you said something else. It's right there for the entire world to see. Now you have to admit that if Bush lied, then everyone lied. Correct? |
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06-24-2006, 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by alias You said the reason the dems said there were WMDs and Iraq was a threat was because the Bush Administration doctored the intelligence. Then when I pointed you to quotes from the Clinton administration, you said something else. It's right there for the entire world to see. Now you have to admit that if Bush lied, then everyone lied. Correct? | Kinda sucks when a liberal gets caught with his pants down...
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06-24-2006, 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by tyreay Could this be because the Administration twisted the intelligence given to them by the CIA and other sources and that most of the Senators, Reps and Congresspeople, believed it too?
We all know Bush lied:
The president had hoped Saddam could be removed in some way short of war. But early in 2002, Woodward reports, the CIA concluded they could not overthrow Saddam. That word came from the CIA's head of Iraq operations, a man known simply as “Saul.” (Curveball?)
"Saul gets together a briefing and who does he give it to first? Dick Cheney. He said, ‘I can count the number of sources, human sources, spies we have in Iraq on one hand,’” says Woodward. “I asked the president, ‘What was your reaction that the CIA couldn't overthrow Saddam? And the president said one word. 'Darn.'"
The vice president led the way on declaring that Saddam Hussein definitely had weapons of mass destruction. Before that, the president had said only that Saddam “desires them.”
But ten days later, the vice president said Saddam already had weapons of mass destruction. And 12 days after that, the president too had apparently been persuaded: “A lot of people understand he holds weapons of mass destruction.”
Three months later, on Dec. 21, 2002, Woodward says CIA Director George Tenet brought his deputy, John McLaughlin, to the oval office to show the president and the vice president their best evidence that Saddam really had weapons of mass destruction.
”McLaughlin has access to all the satellite photos, and he goes in and he has flip charts in the oval office. The president listens to all of this and McLaughlin's done. And, and the president kind of, as he's inclined to do, says ‘Nice try, but that isn't gonna sell Joe Public. That isn't gonna convince Joe Public,’” says Woodward. http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/...in612067.shtml | Seems like this intel had nothing to do with Clinton as it was collected after his term. This info was what Bush used as proof. Just another case of a goverment ass kissing conservative twisting my words again when they can't discount them. Don't misunderstand me here, again, I am not defending Clinton. I am sure He also believed there was a threat but does this mean Bush was right in twisting the intel provided to him? Or maybe you should now say that Saul was a democrat? What does word spoken by Clinton, before this deception, have to do with this anyway? Atleast make an attempt to make sense.
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06-24-2006, 10:02 AM
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06-24-2006, 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by alias The bottom line is that everyone believed Saddam to be a threat, democrats and republicans. Do you agree with that or not? | Like I said before, if Saddam simply being a threat was the reason, why did we not just say that? We didn't go in because Saddam was a threat, we went in because Bush twisted the intel. One lie on top of the other has made this country look like we all are full of shit. Do you agree with this or not? I have a right as an American to question a President that can't even keep his lies straight and makes our country look like we are all lying bullies.
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06-24-2006, 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by tyreay Like I said before, if Saddam simply being a threat was the reason, why did we not just say that? We didn't go in because Saddam was a threat, we went in because Bush twisted the intel. One lie on top of the other has made this country look like we all are full of shit. Do you agree with this or not? I have a right as an American to question a President that can't even keep his lies straight and makes our country look like we are all lying bullies. | Did Kerry, Kennedy, Clinton, Albright, Berger, etc lie? |
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06-24-2006, 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by alias Did Kerry, Kennedy, Clinton, Albright, Berger, etc lie? | I love how you always answer my questions with questions. Can't answer, or you'll be in trouble with your superiors? Typical distraction post. Seem the norm for you lately.
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