Freedom, and isn't this the worst Congress ever?

alias · 06-30-2006, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by aMFliberal

No, he said you don't even realize that you prove the points he is making.

How is that? Please explain.

alias · 06-30-2006, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by foundit66

I never said anything about it being "wrong" to take action to ensure that crap gets out of your neighborhood. I said you were proving my point.

Dude. You don't even hear what I'm saying.
You just hear what you THINK I said, and you're too stubborn to realize when you're wrong.

I suppose that statement probably tells you that I enjoy aborting babies, and that I give money to terrorists...

Then if it isn't wrong, why am I wrong. Are you confused again?

alias · 06-30-2006, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Jefferson

Perhaps if you'd stop acting like an ass on this forum I wouldn't be tempted to go burn a cross in your front yard.

But hey, it's just "freedom of expression", and certainly should be allowed. In addition, if I burn a cross in your front yard it's obviously YOUR fault!

Liberals think freedom of expression is when you agree with them. Anything else is hate speech.

thenewnoise · 06-30-2006, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by alias

I believe burning the flag is a contempable insult to all those who have fought for this country under that flag. To me, it is the highest form of disrespect for America. The flag stands for America, the greatest country in the history of the world. If someone doesn't like the current administration, then burn a flag of an elephant or a donkey.

I think banning flag burning is an insult to all those who have fought for this country. I think those who have laid down their lives did so to protect our freedoms, not a piece of cloth.

thenewnoise · 06-30-2006, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Jefferson

Perhaps if you'd stop acting like an ass on this forum I wouldn't be tempted to go burn a cross in your front yard.

But hey, it's just "freedom of expression", and certainly should be allowed. In addition, if I burn a cross in your front yard it's obviously YOUR fault!

Burn as many crosses as you want. Just keep it off my yard. Also, whomever decides to burn flags should not be allowed to do so on your property without your consent. That is an issue of trespassing, not freedom of speech.

thenewnoise · 06-30-2006, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by alias

So you think messing up a guy who builds a meth lab next to my property is wrong? Not where I come from. The entire neighborhood ran his family out. That's a good thing. Your response tells me more about you than what I did tells about me. Any decent person would have done the same thing we did.

I generally think that taking the law into your hands is a bad idea for many reasons. And I think violence unnecessary in most cases. But taking strong and clear actions within the community to remove a meth lab is great.

alias · 06-30-2006, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by thenewnoise

I think banning flag burning is an insult to all those who have fought for this country. I think those who have laid down their lives did so to protect our freedoms, not a piece of cloth.

That is not a piece of cloth. Those who died defending this country did not die for a piece of cloth. There are going to be some bloody noses if people think burning the American flag in this country is okay. Too many veterans will make sure of that.

aMFliberal · 07-03-2006, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by alias

How is that? Please explain.

If that was possible, you wouldn't need an explanation in the first place.

I think that's the best way I can put it.

aMFliberal · 07-03-2006, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by alias

That is not a piece of cloth. Those who died defending this country did not die for a piece of cloth. There are going to be some bloody noses if people think burning the American flag in this country is okay. Too many veterans will make sure of that.

That's all right. People get punched in the face on a daily basis for things they are free to say.

Katczinsky · 07-03-2006, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Jefferson

Perhaps if you'd stop acting like an ass on this forum I wouldn't be tempted to go burn a cross in your front yard.

But hey, it's just "freedom of expression", and certainly should be allowed. In addition, if I burn a cross in your front yard it's obviously YOUR fault!

Oh really, I'm acting like an ass? Why is that, because I voiced my opinion? Fuck you.

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That is not a piece of cloth. Those who died defending this country did not die for a piece of cloth. There are going to be some bloody noses if people think burning the American flag in this country is okay. Too many veterans will make sure of that.

Exactly, our brave veterans did not die for a piece of cloth: they died for what it stands for: freedom, democracy, and justice. It is therefore more of a desecration upon their sacrafices if you ban something that is purely a form of symbolic protest and political expression. If watching someone burn an American flag here in the US somehow hurts your morale or angers you; then you are weak. Just know that they are dumbasses for doing so and are already making themselves out to be dumbasses publically. It is not only very weak if you must feel compelled to impose your beliefs and morals onto other people through the law of this country: but it is antidemocratic and more un-american than the act of burning the flag itself.