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Old 07-30-2006, 12:50 AM   #121 (permalink)
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I know why. I'm asking you if you know why. Don't you know the answer? I'm the one who is supposd to be stupid around here, not you, or is it because your political correctness will not allow you to speak the truth?
Oh of coarse they'll give you their reasons...but then again do you always trust a criminal's reasons for his crimes? The true answer to why is hidden, and one may only speculate.
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Old 07-30-2006, 12:41 PM   #122 (permalink)
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Oh of coarse they'll give you their reasons...but then again do you always trust a criminal's reasons for his crimes? The true answer to why is hidden, and one may only speculate.
You either will not answer it or are lying. You aint that stupid. I just saw video of hezbully launching rockets from behind a civilianh building. Where does Israel fire from? They fire away from civilians. When hezbully fires from behind a building and there are civilians inside, guess what? When Israel finds the launcher, they fire, and when the launcher is hit, the building, of course, is also hit.

Now you know why more civilians are killed on the Lebonese side. You can blame hezbollah for it. Now you have no more reason to lie or play dumb. Hezbollah with fight until the death of every Lebonese civilian that they hide behind. They are cowardly scum who need to be destroyed and burned to ashes. They are the cause of all this death, not Israel.
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Here's a hint: we're not fighting Hezbollah.

Also, I could give you examples of the military deliberately targeting civilian targets even when insurgents aren't firing from them. One of the most blatant, which I keep using but you seem to keep conveniently ignoring is the fact that the Fallujah hospital was deliberately targeted in the battle to retake Fallujah. They took it over, and attacked the staff as well as the patients in there. I mean, its a blatant war crime. The Geneva Conventions are very specific when it comes to hospitals. And the military's reasoning behind that wasn't even that there were insurgents in the building. They said that they assaulted it because it was allegedly producing skewed casualty figures. When we don't know if they actually were in the first place, and even if they were, that's not justification for a war crime. But then again, what is justification for a war crime?
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Old 07-30-2006, 01:17 PM   #124 (permalink)
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Here's a hint: we're not fighting Hezbollah.

Also, I could give you examples of the military deliberately targeting civilian targets even when insurgents aren't firing from them. One of the most blatant, which I keep using but you seem to keep conveniently ignoring is the fact that the Fallujah hospital was deliberately targeted in the battle to retake Fallujah. They took it over, and attacked the staff as well as the patients in there. I mean, its a blatant war crime. The Geneva Conventions are very specific when it comes to hospitals. And the military's reasoning behind that wasn't even that there were insurgents in the building. They said that they assaulted it because it was allegedly producing skewed casualty figures. When we don't know if they actually were in the first place, and even if they were, that's not justification for a war crime. But then again, what is justification for a war crime?
So what? Why would our military attack a hospital without reason? I'm not that gullible. Terrorists are always hiding in hospitals, schools, civilian homes, etc. They're the cowards, not the US military. If our military is in a hospital, they are there because that is where terrorists are. How easy do you think it is for a terrorist to put on a doctor's coat? Pretty damn easy.

The war crime is the terrorists. They are the crime, not the USA. You like standing in the middle of the road with your moral equivalency. Here is morality for you. The terrorists are evil. America is good. There is good and evil in this world. You don't believe that do you?

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Old 07-31-2006, 03:19 PM   #125 (permalink)
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Okay. Here is your quote: "Originally Posted by Dylan:
No, I'm really not overexaggerating. You can read the bill if you want. Granted, it doesn't give the government the right to slice your head off, but it does give them the right to imprison you and rob you blind for no reason.

The government never has had the right to imprison and rob you blind for no reason and still doesn't. Are you a terrrorist or connected to funding terrorists or somehow supporting them? If you are, then you should worry. If you're not, you don't have to worry. The government has always had the power over you if you commit a crime. Don't do it and the government can not harm you. If they do, you can sue them and live the rest of your life in ease.
They don't have to prove that you're a terrorist. They could literally decide that anyone is a terrorist. There's no standard, and so they could technically do horrible things to anyone. You also can't sue them because you're not allowed to talk about the actions carried out against you under the act. It's one of the provisions.
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They don't have to prove that you're a terrorist. They could literally decide that anyone is a terrorist. There's no standard, and so they could technically do horrible things to anyone. You also can't sue them because you're not allowed to talk about the actions carried out against you under the act. It's one of the provisions.
In other words, you are more afraid your government is going to abuse you or kill you than you are of the terrorists killing you. Is that correct?
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In other words, you are more afraid your government is going to abuse you or kill you than you are of the terrorists killing you. Is that correct?
I fail to see how allowing the government to proverbially rape me and my property is going to fight terrorism. I'm afraid of both.

Why can't everyone just leave everyone else the hell alone?
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I fail to see how allowing the government to proverbially rape me and my property is going to fight terrorism. I'm afraid of both.

Why can't everyone just leave everyone else the hell alone?
I'm not afraid of both. I trust my government. They haven't abused me. Have you been abused by your government? If not, maybe you're being scared by the leftist propaganda instead of reality.

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I'm not afraid of both. I trust my government. They haven't abuse me. Have you been abused by your government? If not, maybe you're being scared by the leftist propaganda instead of reality.
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HELLO, LIBERTARIANS ARE RIGHT WINGERS, HELLO!!?!?

My god, you're the densest person ever...

Socialists are the ones who want the government to micromanage everything. I want small government, and I want that government to stay the hell away from me. That's real conservatism. I don't trust the government. As Ronald Reagan said, "The nine most terrifying words in the English language are 'we're from the government, and we're here to help.'"

I don't want the government to have that kind of power, because power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. You give the government power like that, and it's only a matter of time before they hurt us with it.
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Nah, only in the market place. If know about socialists then they resemble social libertarians; its just that they recognize one thing: laissez-faire doesn't mean freedom. In fact, dangerously, laissez-faire is quite the contrary.
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