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Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances. According to the Patriot Act, I can't complain about the Patriot Act if I am wronged by it. There goes my right to petition the government for a redress of grievances. Also, under the Patriot Act, a person can be arrested based on what they say, and any other factor, like skin color, political affiliation, or religion. So, there goes freedom of speech and assembly. Amendment IV The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized. Well, apparently that whole amendment is out the window. The government doesn't need a reason anymore. Amendment V No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation. The Patriot Act is a clear violation of the due process clause. In addition, the Patriot Act allows for the death penalty without a grand jury, so the Fifth Amendment is basically out the window. Amendment VI In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the state and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the assistance of counsel for his defense. Do I even have to say anything about this one? Amendment XIV Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. There's that "due process of law" thing again... Well? My political compass Economic Left/Right: 5.63 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.41 | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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... I did. Hell, I even used brevity. Why don't you actually read what I wrote? My political compass Economic Left/Right: 5.63 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.41 | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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| Alias, you seem to be asking for specific individual cases of violations of the law via the PATRIOT Act. What Dylan has done was point out exactly how the PATRIOT Act gives authorities the ability to violate the law under the Constitution. It is therefore unnecessary to point out individual violations because those are different cases. But if you so want an individual case than take the more well-known case of Sherman Austin. "If you want to achieve peace of mind and happiness, then have faith; if you want to be a disciple of truth, then search" -- Friedrich Nietzsche Economic Left/Right: -9.50 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.72 | |||||||||||||||||||||
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