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Originally Posted by foundit66 And that's a LOT of your problem.
You're sooooo concerned about procurring your own safety that you don't care about anybody else's freedoms and rights. You don't care when they are violated against their will.
Yes.
You ASSUME that.
ASSUME being the key-word...
Bullspit alias.
I don't care if it's Clinton pulling this crap.
It's wrong.
And you lying about my motive doesn't make it right... | You're right. I am concerned about my safety. My safety and my family's safety and the safety of Americans comes before the rights of some religious nut who wants to kill me. I will ASSUME that and it will not bother my conscience one little bit.
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Originally Posted by alias You're right. I am concerned about my safety. My safety and my family's safety and the safety of Americans comes before the rights of some religious nut who wants to kill me. I will ASSUME that and it will not bother my conscience one little bit. | "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
Benjamin Franklin
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Originally Posted by alias You're right. I am concerned about my safety. My safety and my family's safety and the safety of Americans comes before the rights of some religious nut who wants to kill me. I will ASSUME that and it will not bother my conscience one little bit. | Actually, if you did that and didn't just ASSUME who the religious nuts were, I wouldn't have a problem.
I don't think anybody would have a problem.
It's when you ASSUME who the religious nuts who want to kill you are, and REFUSE TO SHOW REASON WHY you make that assumption...
THAT is when we have a problem.
Understand?
All we're asking for is that people show JUST CAUSE for these cases.
Do you get that????
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Originally Posted by Jefferson Nice smoke screen. |
Not a smoke screen. Irrelevant questions get irrelevant answers.
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Originally Posted by thenewnoise Not a smoke screen. Irrelevant questions get irrelevant answers. | No.
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Originally Posted by Jefferson No.
Questions you can't answer get irrelevant answers. | What are you taking about? I did answer it. I don't know all who are in Guantanamo so I can't say for sure that I would not be willing to dine with them all. For all we know there could be completely innocent, good people in there. That is why the government should be held accountable. And how exactly does me not wanting to dine with them make them guilty of terrorism? I don't think I would like to dine with you, does that make you a terrorist too?
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Originally Posted by Katczinsky "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
Benjamin Franklin | Bullshit. I am not giving up one essential liberty. Benjamin Franklin was not talking about finding out what the enemy is doing in his country as giving up an essential liberty. Nice try. Try again. | |
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Originally Posted by foundit66 Actually, if you did that and didn't just ASSUME who the religious nuts were, I wouldn't have a problem.
I don't think anybody would have a problem.
It's when you ASSUME who the religious nuts who want to kill you are, and REFUSE TO SHOW REASON WHY you make that assumption...
THAT is when we have a problem.
Understand?
All we're asking for is that people show JUST CAUSE for these cases.
Do you get that???? | 09/11 is enough just cause for me. Why are we listening to the enemy? Just cause they anihilated 3000 Americans on 09/11. | |
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Originally Posted by alias Bullshit. I am not giving up one essential liberty. Benjamin Franklin was not talking about finding out what the enemy is doing in his country as giving up an essential liberty. Nice try. Try again. | You haven't a clue what Franklin was talking about, but you feel comfortable just making up a story that will sound good for you...
News Flash Alias. If a person HAS TO GIVE UP "essential liberty" in order to gain liberty or safety, then he IS TALKING about liberty / safety in his own back-yard. IN his country.
Tell me Alias. Can YOU give up an "essential liberty" that you have IN A FOREIGN COUNTRY???
You don't even stop to think, do you.
You just make up something that sounds good, throw it out there, and you don't care if it's accurate or not. Quote: |
Originally Posted by alias 09/11 is enough just cause for me. Why are we listening to the enemy? Just cause they anihilated 3000 Americans on 09/11. | WHO is this "they"? As in, when you point to a prisoner, how do you know that this particular person IS ACTUALLY part of the "they"?
During World War II, "they" were the Japanese, and we stuck Japanese-Americans in internment camps.
All we're asking is that we PROVE that "they" are who we say "they" are.
That's it.
That's what we're asking for.
You repeatedly avoid that point, because you KNOW you cannot point out anything wrong with that point.
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