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Old 07-31-2006, 01:42 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Unfortunately for you, your personal feelings toward the President do NOT make legal grounds for anything.

It's no different than the people who hated President Clinton.

Too bad, so sad.
He lied under oath about why we should go to war. He illegally wiretapped.
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Old 07-31-2006, 02:06 PM   #12 (permalink)
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He lied under oath about why we should go to war. He illegally wiretapped.
He made decisions based on faulty intelligence reports - just like the Senate Intelligence Committee. That is NOT lying.

He did not illegally "wiretap". Are you so backwards that you don't know the difference between scanning numbers and wiretapping?


Besides, where's the legal proof to back up your blindly biased opinions?
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Old 07-31-2006, 02:25 PM   #13 (permalink)
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He lied under oath about why we should go to war. He illegally wiretapped.
The democrats lied also and voted for the war. Let's impeach all the liars. Are you willing to do that or are you partisan?
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Old 07-31-2006, 02:35 PM   #14 (permalink)
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He made decisions based on faulty intelligence reports - just like the Senate Intelligence Committee. That is NOT lying.

He did not illegally "wiretap". Are you so backwards that you don't know the difference between scanning numbers and wiretapping?


Besides, where's the legal proof to back up your blindly biased opinions?
Oh I see, I saw this coming. The blame game. The intelligence didn't lie to the Bush administration; they lied to themselves and to the people of this country. They cherry picked the intel, do you know what that means?

And yes, he did illegally wiretap. He issued warantless wiretaps. Now it doesn't matter if this was used on a soccer mom or Ahab the Arab, its still illegal.

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The democrats lied also and voted for the war. Let's impeach all the liars. Are you willing to do that or are you partisan?
The Democrats who voted for the war weren't lying, they were ignorant. They weren't lies because they themselves were lied to and mislead by the President and his administration. And you're so quick to group all Democrats. There were Democrats (and some Republicans and the Independents) who voted Nay on the Iraq War Resolution.

Congress gets their information from the administration; they didn't lie, they were just spreading the false information that the white house issued. Now I agree that they definetly could have done more, because the "Nay" voters all recognized the complete rediculousness of the administration's claims of WMD's. I mean, they used an artist's rendition of what they think is going on in Iraq for proof.
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Old 07-31-2006, 02:49 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Oh I see, I saw this coming. The blame game. The intelligence didn't lie to the Bush administration; they lied to themselves and to the people of this country. They cherry picked the intel, do you know what that means?

And yes, he did illegally wiretap. He issued warantless wiretaps. Now it doesn't matter if this was used on a soccer mom or Ahab the Arab, its still illegal.



The Democrats who voted for the war weren't lying, they were ignorant. They weren't lies because they themselves were lied to and mislead by the President and his administration. And you're so quick to group all Democrats. There were Democrats (and some Republicans and the Independents) who voted Nay on the Iraq War Resolution.

Congress gets their information from the administration; they didn't lie, they were just spreading the false information that the white house issued. Now I agree that they definetly could have done more, because the "Nay" voters all recognized the complete rediculousness of the administration's claims of WMD's. I mean, they used an artist's rendition of what they think is going on in Iraq for proof.
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The Democrats who voted for the war weren't lying, they were ignorant.
Same intel reports that Bush used, you hypocrite!
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Oh I see, I saw this coming. The blame game. The intelligence didn't lie to the Bush administration; they lied to themselves and to the people of this country. They cherry picked the intel, do you know what that means?

And yes, he did illegally wiretap. He issued warantless wiretaps. Now it doesn't matter if this was used on a soccer mom or Ahab the Arab, its still illegal.



The Democrats who voted for the war weren't lying, they were ignorant. They weren't lies because they themselves were lied to and mislead by the President and his administration. And you're so quick to group all Democrats. There were Democrats (and some Republicans and the Independents) who voted Nay on the Iraq War Resolution.

Congress gets their information from the administration; they didn't lie, they were just spreading the false information that the white house issued. Now I agree that they definetly could have done more, because the "Nay" voters all recognized the complete rediculousness of the administration's claims of WMD's. I mean, they used an artist's rendition of what they think is going on in Iraq for proof.
Do you really need to see the list again of the dems who were saying the same thing the administration was? If it's so damn easy to fool the dems, then maybe you should find better candidates with more smarts so you can't blame someone else all the time for being so damn dumb.
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Old 07-31-2006, 02:58 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Do you really need to see the list again of the dems who were saying the same thing the administration was? If it's so damn easy to fool the dems, then maybe you should find better candidates with more smarts so you can't blame someone else all the time for being so damn dumb.
It really did quiet John Edwards down, before the 2004 Election, when it was revealed that HE was on the Senate Intel Committee - had access to the same information Bush had, and agreed with Bush on a plan of action against Iraq.

In retrospect, I believe they BOTH may have been wrong. But they were BOTH wrong. Not one or the other.

This is why most of us are laughing our arses off at the liberals & Democrats who keep crying, "Bush lied about Iraq!"
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Old 07-31-2006, 03:38 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Do you really need to see the list again of the dems who were saying the same thing the administration was? If it's so damn easy to fool the dems, then maybe you should find better candidates with more smarts so you can't blame someone else all the time for being so damn dumb.
Hmm, some Democrats are easily fooled, so I need to find new candidates? First of all, here comes your left-right paradigm creeping in again. First, I'm not a Democrat, and second, I'm not supporting any candidate that voted for the Iraq War.
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Hmm, some Democrats are easily fooled, so I need to find new candidates? First of all, here comes your left-right paradigm creeping in again. First, I'm not a Democrat, and second, I'm not supporting any candidate that voted for the Iraq War.
Okay. Then be honest and say it was the dems and Bush who lied about the intelligence. Okay?
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I am being honest. The Democrats weren't lying, they were just mislead. Same with the Republicans in Congress. The Bush administration cherry picked the evidence. Its as simple as that. They were lying. They had predetermined plans to take out Saddam, and they molded any evidence they could find to mislead America into the war. They even exploited 9/11, and the war on terror. If you don't find that sick then you're pretty messed up.
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