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09-29-2006, 01:23 AM
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Bush' Complicit Role in 911 Attack It is the red isn't it? Evidence that George W. Bush not only knew of attack in advance, but had been in on its planning and its intended outcome. Bush' Complicit Role in 911 Attack -- HIGH TREASON 5-Minute Video of George W. Bush on the Morning of 9/11 The Memory Hole > 5-Minute Video of George W. Bush on the Morning of 9/11
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Bring Heaven to Earth Every Day! http://youtube.com/watch?v=jBcwAJZGX...=john%20denver The ancient Greeks used to say, "You shall know a man by the friends that he keeps." Given the nature of his friends and advisors, what are we to conclude about George W. Bush:
Stop the madness before us it stops!
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09-29-2006, 01:33 AM
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Some things are true even if the Washington Post says them. Reviewing the Bush administrations conduct in the case of accused terrorist Yaser Esam Hamdi, a June 20th Post editorial concluded that under the powers claimed by the administration, "any American could be locked up indefinitely, without a lawyer, on the presidents say-so." The New American - Suspending Habeas Corpus - July 15, 2002 Bush administration claims police-state powers in Guantánamo arguments before US Supreme Court
Come on attack the source not the problem! America 2006 is Germany 1930 "The German experiment, except to those who are its victims, is particularly interesting, and, like the offer of a strong man to let himself be vivisected, should make a great contribution to political science. For the Germans are the most gifted and most highly educated people who ever devoted the full strength of a modern state to stopping the exchange of ideas; they are the most highly organized people who ever devoted all the coercive power of government to the abolition of their own intellectual life; they are the most learned people who ever pretended to believe that the premises and the conclusion of all inquiry may be fixed by political fiat."---Walter Lippmann. (1936), The Good Society The White Rose
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Bring Heaven to Earth Every Day! http://youtube.com/watch?v=jBcwAJZGX...=john%20denver The ancient Greeks used to say, "You shall know a man by the friends that he keeps." Given the nature of his friends and advisors, what are we to conclude about George W. Bush:
Stop the madness before us it stops!
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09-29-2006, 09:52 AM
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10-04-2006, 09:12 PM
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Points: 17,949, Level: 85 | Level up: 86%, 401 Points needed | | The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors. - - ARTICLE II, SECTION 4 OF THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
President George W. Bush, Vice President Richard B. Cheney, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld, and Attorney General Alberto Gonzales have committed violations and subversions of the Constitution of the United States of America in an attempt to carry out with impunity crimes against peace and humanity and war crimes and deprivations of the civil rights of the people of the United States and other nations, by assuming powers of an imperial executive unaccountable to law and usurping powers of the Congress, the Judiciary and those reserved to the people of the United States, by the following acts:
1) Seizing power to wage wars of aggression in defiance of the U.S. Constitution, the U.N. Charter and the rule of law; carrying out a massive assault on and occupation of Iraq, a country that was not threatening the United States, resulting in the death and maiming of over one hundred thousand Iraqis, and thousands of U.S. G.I.s.
2) Lying to the people of the U.S., to Congress, and to the U.N., providing false and deceptive rationales for war.
3) Authorizing, ordering and condoning direct attacks on civilians, civilian facilities and locations where civilian casualties were unavoidable.
4) Instituting a secret and illegal wiretapping and spying operation against the people of the United States through the National Security Agency.
5) Threatening the independence and sovereignty of Iraq by belligerently changing its government by force and assaulting Iraq in a war of aggression.
6) Authorizing, ordering and condoning assassinations, summary executions, kidnappings, secret and other illegal detentions of individuals, torture and physical and psychological coercion of prisoners to obtain false statements concerning acts and intentions of governments and individuals and violating within the United States, and by authorizing U.S. forces and agents elsewhere, the rights of individuals under the First, Fourth, Fifth, Sixth and Eighth Amendments to the Constitution of the United States, the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, and the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights.
7) Making, ordering and condoning false statements and propaganda about the conduct of foreign governments and individuals and acts by U.S. government personnel; manipulating the media and foreign governments with false information; concealing information vital to public discussion and informed judgment concerning acts, intentions and possession, or efforts to obtain weapons of mass destruction in order to falsely create a climate of fear and destroy opposition to U.S. wars of aggression and first strike attacks. Violations and subversions of the Charter of the United Nations and international law, both a part of the "Supreme Law of the land" under Article VI, paragraph 2, of the Constitution, in an attempt to commit with impunity crimes against peace and humanity and war crimes in wars and threats of aggression against Afghanistan, Iraq and others and usurping powers of the United Nations and the peoples of its nations by bribery, coercion and other corrupt acts and by rejecting treaties, committing treaty violations, and frustrating compliance with treaties in order to destroy any means by which international law and institutions can prevent, affect, or adjudicate the exercise of U.S. military and economic power against the international community.
9) Acting to strip United States citizens of their constitutional and human rights, ordering indefinite detention of citizens, without access to counsel, without charge, and without opportunity to appear before a civil judicial officer to challenge the detention, based solely on the discretionary designation by the Executive of a citizen as an "enemy combatant."
10) Ordering indefinite detention of non-citizens in the United States and elsewhere, and without charge, at the discretionary designation of the Attorney General or the Secretary of Defense.
11) Ordering and authorizing the Attorney General to override judicial orders of release of detainees under INS jurisdiction, even where the judicial officer after full hearing determines a detainee is wrongfully held by the government.
12) Authorizing secret military tribunals and summary execution of persons who are not citizens who are designated solely at the discretion of the Executive who acts as indicting official, prosecutor and as the only avenue of appellate relief.
13) Refusing to provide public disclosure of the identities and locations of persons who have been arrested, detained and imprisoned by the U.S. government in the United States, including in response to Congressional inquiry.
14) Use of secret arrests of persons within the United States and elsewhere and denial of the right to public trials.
15) Authorizing the monitoring of confidential attorney-client privileged communications by the government, even in the absence of a court order and even where an incarcerated person has not been charged with a crime.
16) Ordering and authorizing the seizure of assets of persons in the United States, prior to hearing or trial, for lawful or innocent association with any entity that at the discretionary designation of the Executive has been deemed "terrorist."
17) Engaging in criminal neglect in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina, depriving thousands of people in Louisiana, Mississippi and other Gulf States of urgently needed support, causing mass suffering and unnecessary loss of life.
1 Institutionalization of racial and religious profiling and authorization of domestic spying by federal law enforcement on persons based on their engagement in noncriminal religious and political activity.
19) Refusal to provide information and records necessary and appropriate for the constitutional right of legislative oversight of executive functions.
20) Rejecting treaties protective of peace and human rights and abrogation of the obligations of the United States under, and withdrawal from, international treaties and obligations without consent of the legislative branch, and including termination of the ABM treaty between the United States and Russia, and rescission of the authorizing signature from the Treaty of Rome which served as the basis for the International Criminal Court. ImpeachBush / VoteToImpeach:
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Bring Heaven to Earth Every Day! http://youtube.com/watch?v=jBcwAJZGX...=john%20denver The ancient Greeks used to say, "You shall know a man by the friends that he keeps." Given the nature of his friends and advisors, what are we to conclude about George W. Bush:
Stop the madness before us it stops!
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10-04-2006, 10:40 PM
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If you or I did the things that some of these politicians do, we would be in handcuffs and punished by going to jail or paying a hefty fine. But all politicians get is a slap on the wrist by being fired. I'm tired of that crap. What good is a system of justice if an elite group decide to be above it?
According to the War Crimes Act of 1996, Bush and other US officials should be eligible for the death penalty for their crimes. Especially after the Supreme Court said that the Geneva Conventions apply to the detainees. No wonder they tried (and succeeded unfortunately) to pardon themselves of war crimes through legislation last week. Aside from that, legislation was passed broadening the possible definition of terrorist, while including that even if they're American citizens, their rights to habeas corpus and other constitutional rights of justice would be suspended. To me, the Foley scandal is helping the Republicans. Becuase it certainly is a nice little cover for Bush's Enabling Act to be passed.
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10-05-2006, 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Katczinsky WTF? Don't impeach Bush! Indict him on his criminal activity.
If you or I did the things that some of these politicians do, we would be in handcuffs and punished by going to jail or paying a hefty fine. But all politicians get is a slap on the wrist by being fired. I'm tired of that crap. What good is a system of justice if an elite group decide to be above it?
According to the War Crimes Act of 1996, Bush and other US officials should be eligible for the death penalty for their crimes. Especially after the Supreme Court said that the Geneva Conventions apply to the detainees. No wonder they tried (and succeeded unfortunately) to pardon themselves of war crimes through legislation last week. Aside from that, legislation was passed broadening the possible definition of terrorist, while including that even if they're American citizens, their rights to habeas corpus and other constitutional rights of justice would be suspended. To me, the Foley scandal is helping the Republicans. Becuase it certainly is a nice little cover for Bush's Enabling Act to be passed. | Impeach and send to Guantanamo, no death penalty, let them mingle with the other prisoners at Guantanamo! 
__________________ Live the Light, Give the Light,
Bring Heaven to Earth Every Day! http://youtube.com/watch?v=jBcwAJZGX...=john%20denver The ancient Greeks used to say, "You shall know a man by the friends that he keeps." Given the nature of his friends and advisors, what are we to conclude about George W. Bush:
Stop the madness before us it stops!
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10-15-2006, 12:46 AM
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Level up: 53%, 72 Points needed | | I am sorry but using Yaser Esam Hamdi as a poster boy for the President violating a citizens rights is ridiculous and just goes to show the lengths of which the Bush haters will go.
While Hamdi has a claim to American citizenship, where was he captured???? Answer that question. He was not taken from his home in the middle of the night by some brown shirt, nor was he arrested in front of his family by the police to be sent to the Gulag. No, he was captured by the U.S. Military during hostilities in AFghanistan. He was transported to Gitmo as all other detainees, and it was there that it was discovered he was an American citizen.
But the fact of the matter remains that he was captured in armed conflict with the US Military. Hmmm you know according to the Constitution, Mr Hamdi should killed. Treason, and armed conflict against the nation in a foreign country is treason, is specifically mentioned in the Constitution, as well as its penalty, death.
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Originally Posted by sgtdmski I am sorry but using Yaser Esam Hamdi as a poster boy for the President violating a citizens rights is ridiculous and just goes to show the lengths of which the Bush haters will go.
While Hamdi has a claim to American citizenship, where was he captured???? Answer that question. He was not taken from his home in the middle of the night by some brown shirt, nor was he arrested in front of his family by the police to be sent to the Gulag. No, he was captured by the U.S. Military during hostilities in AFghanistan. He was transported to Gitmo as all other detainees, and it was there that it was discovered he was an American citizen.
But the fact of the matter remains that he was captured in armed conflict with the US Military. Hmmm you know according to the Constitution, Mr Hamdi should killed. Treason, and armed conflict against the nation in a foreign country is treason, is specifically mentioned in the Constitution, as well as its penalty, death.
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10-16-2006, 04:25 AM
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Level up: 53%, 72 Points needed | | How quickly the like to subvert the facts and use them only for their own benefit, and when they are caught, how fast their arguments cease.
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10-16-2006, 07:30 AM
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Points: 14,720, Level: 78 | Level up: 79%, 130 Points needed | | I agree that using Hamdi as an example was not appropriate.
You guys do realize that Bush has admitted that his wire tapping program and holding prisoners indefinitely was the wrong move? The Supreme Court has ruled on both issues and Bush has said He wil go with what ever the supreme court says. This is very close to his own admission of guilt. Like it or not the President probably did break the law.
I know you conservative backers don't hold any stock in the polls taken by various bodies, but I saw on TV last night that 53% of Americans believe Bush lied to the American people, the Senate and Congress about Iraq and the war on terror. Only 36% think he didn't. This poll was taken by Reuters and they are definitely a conservative controlled news agent. All of the polls taken have pointed to these basic numbers. We are now coming down to election time and if they are done fairly I think you will see that most Americans don't agree with the stance that the President can do what he wants because we are at war. Even the 'majority', who you guys claim are Republician backers(given as evidence here numerous times in posts pointing out the fact that they won the last elections) are now turning on their own party, which is exactly what they should do. The Republicans maybe screwed, plain and simple. Quote: |
Originally Posted by tyreay I am not bound to any party. I consider myself a true independent and really don't like the current senators or Reps if they are Rebublicans or Democrats. I think that the coruption is in both parties and really feel that the two party system sucks bad. The whole way we do business concerning our elections needs to be revamped.
Having mentioned this, I now must make a stance for what I feel is in this country's best interests. Current control of our government is in this administrations hands. Our system of checks and balances has been thrown out of wack by this control. The addition of Alito may swing control even further out of wack.
In order to take back some control from this administration, it is imperative that the Democratic Party gets control of the Senate. I know there are plenty of hard line republicians out there that know Bush's decisions are wrong.
Please do the right thing and give us our checks and balances back by VOTING, this year, for ALL Democrats in the senate. Save this country from total control by this administration and vote whats in your heart as the right thing, and to hell with political affiliations!! | http://www.defendingthetruth.com/leg...-balances.html
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