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Old 07-29-2005, 12:48 PM   #71 (permalink)
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are they planning on passing one?? i would do my best to prevent you from doin that if i saw you doing so. but afterwards i would ask you not to hold it against me.
http://www.aclu.org/FreeSpeech/FreeS...?ID=18564&c=50

The house passed it, but it is not expected to pass the senate.
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Old 07-29-2005, 01:13 PM   #72 (permalink)
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The flag stands for our country and all in contains.
Wrong wrong wrong...

The flag stands for the ideals on which the country was founded.
taddypole is right ma'boy.

So the flag stands for slavery, masonry, and genocide? Those are the ideals this country was founded on. Remember actions speak louder than words.
None of those are IDEALs this country or ANY country was founded on. I suspect you don't understand what an IDEAL is.
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The flag stands for our country and all in contains.
Wrong wrong wrong...

The flag stands for the ideals on which the country was founded.
taddypole is right ma'boy.

So the flag stands for slavery, masonry, and genocide? Those are the ideals this country was founded on. Remember actions speak louder than words.
None of those are IDEALs this country or ANY country was founded on. I suspect you don't understand what an IDEAL is.
Actions speak louder than words my friend.

I may have a dilemma for you when we meet in Philly


Old 07-29-2005, 01:27 PM   #74 (permalink)
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The flag stands for our country and all in contains.
Wrong wrong wrong...

The flag stands for the ideals on which the country was founded.
taddypole is right ma'boy.

So the flag stands for slavery, masonry, and genocide? Those are the ideals this country was founded on. Remember actions speak louder than words.
None of those are IDEALs this country or ANY country was founded on. I suspect you don't understand what an IDEAL is.
Actions speak louder than words my friend.

I may have a dilemma for you when we meet in Philly
Asking very nicely,

Please don't.
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Asking very nicely,

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Haha. Wow, you really are touchy about this.
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Asking very nicely,

Please don't.
Haha. Wow, you really are touchy about this.
Yes I am. It is a very sensitive and dear issue to me. I once almost struck an Officer because he allowed the flag to touch the ground. He apologized, before I could get to him, so I calmed down.

I can think of only one thing that bothers me more....

RACISM.
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I think it is degrading to burn an American flag and wish it wouldn't be allowed. But I guess we have to let it since it is a form of freedom of speech. Even though I think I would want to hurt someone if I saw them burning the flag.
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Asking very nicely,

Please don't.
Haha. Wow, you really are touchy about this.
Yes I am. It is a very sensitive and dear issue to me. I once almost struck an Officer because he allowed the flag to touch the ground. He apologized, before I could get to him, so I calmed down.

I can think of only one thing that bothers me more....

RACISM.
Well, I'll respect your wishes.
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America is only our little nook in the world, but outside of America, outside of our society and culture, outside our line of thought, the rest of this richly diverse world -- including humanity, including the animals and insects, including the trees and grass and rocks and rivers -- is hard at work, trying to survive. I think America has a tendency to get in the way of that, or make it more difficult, so I can understand the symbolism in the burning the flag- wanting to destroy something that many have grown to love, respect, and depend on, even though America itself takes part in the destruction of something that I and many, many others have grow to love, respect, and depend on.

What the flag stands for is a matter of opinion. You can be as proud as you want to serve under the flag, I have no problem with that.

What I do have a problem with is the nation that has adopted a way of thinking that that even put mother nature in service to this country. You can be a compassionate American and love nature, there are many people like that, no doubt... But I don't think any number of reforms will save the world. It takes much more than that, in fact you could say it takes a revolution.
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I wasn't.

You guys are missing the point.

Burning an American flag and putting a Support Our Troops(or a W '04, or Pro-choice etc) magnet on your car is the same ACTION.

That action, of course, is politically expressing yourself.

To me, it's all the same. Saying you would kick someone's ass for burning the American flag is the same kind of selfishness as people who file complaints to the FCC about Howard Stern and Janet Jackson's boobie. It's the same kind of selfishness that the KKK in Mississippi had when they murdered three voting rights activists in the 1960s.
"I don't like that" or "I don't agree with that." That's fine. It also doesn't matter, because everyone is entitled to their opinion and everyone has the right to express themself. It's your passion about this subject that is making you miss the point I think, and no one is blaming you for that. I certainly am not.
no because people dont have to listen to howard stern they can turn the radio off whenever they please. Janet Jackson was an accident those happen. I do not see that as the same, because I consider flag burning a provokative action (if thats even a word). but i dont see any connection in your comparison.
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