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Old 12-06-2006, 10:50 AM   #31 (permalink)
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The lie is about jobs. There are more people working with more to spend than at any time in this nation's history. The economy is rolling along very nice.

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I heard a parody of Bush today telling us that there are plenty of jobs, just move to China or India.

Bush economic report praises 'outsourcing' jobs

http://www.indiaresource.org/news/2004/1044.html

Corporate India Favours George Bush

Economic Times
October 30, 2004

New Delhi: Who is India Inc cheering for? Bush, the known face, has the advantage of being the incumbent. And, outside of the US and English speaking world, if there's any country that knows Kerry as well as his countrymen, it's probably India.

To India, he is the face of the anti-outsourcing noise in the US.

So, no points for guessing who did the local corporate heads prefer when ET asked them to cast their votes. A cross-section of honchos came up with a resounding thumbs up for the Republicans.

Outcome of the outsourcing debate is on the top of everyone's mind here which gives a huge head-start to Bush. Kerry is a historically, India-friendly Democrat but that it seems has provided little comfort.

"Bush's stand on outsourcing is well known. It provides for a win-win situation for both corporate India and corporate America. Studies have shown that the benefits of outsourcing accrue to both developed and developing nations. As a matter of fact, the developed nation accumulates nearly two-thirds of the economic benefits, while developing nations accrue about one-third. While Kerry initially opposed outsourcing (a stand he seems to have taken once again), we are sure that should he become president he will have a broader understanding of the situation." Ficci secretary general Amit Mitra told ET.

The real reason for India Inc's Dubya vote lies in Kerry's domestic focus as opposed to Bush's more global agenda. Says P D Narang, group director, Dabur India: "Bush has as a more global focus. He has managed, for instance, to bring Pak president Pervez Musharraf on track and if he comes back Indo-Pak relations will improve. Bush is also more rational on outsourcing while Kerry's focus is too insular including sanctions on countries that don't sign the CTBT."

Even if US elects Kerry, there is optimism here that economic considerations, lobby groups and the famous American capitalistic might will prevail once the rhetoric noises fade out.

Giants like GE, Microsoft and the rest have huge stakes in India which the US government will find hard to ignore. Jagdish Khattar, MD, Maruti Udyog articulates this saying: "John Kerry might tinker with the (H1-B visa) quotas but the US is a competitive, open market and the advantages of outsourcing would be brought home to him by the people concerned."

While opting for Bush, most CEOs agreed that irrespective of his political posturing on campaign trails, the new denizen of White House will, in his own interests, mostly maintain status quo.

"We are just looking at a pro India stance of the US government irrespective of whether Bush or Kerry wins in the presidential elections. The main issue nowadays is of economic nationalism and of protecting our own turf. US is doing the same and our stance has to be on similar lines," said RPG Enterprises vice chairman Sanjeev Goenka.

The looming oil price threat seemed to have played on several minds. Says Anand Mahindra, vice-chairman and MD, Mahindra & Mahindra: "As for the oil price curve, that has as much to do with demand as with supply. With both China and India firing on all cylinders, the energy balance in the world has changed forever. And on the supply side if Iraq is being viewed as a destabilising force, nothing much is likely to change on that score because Kerry is as committed to the US engagement in Iraq as Bush."

He further added that "politically, the Democrats will resonate better with the Indian government while economically the Republicans resonate better. But both Bush and Kerry are now of the view that India is a power that cannot be ignored."

There's also quite a section of the blue-chip brigade that with the Senate and the House of Representatives playing huge roles in decision-making feels there's little to choose between the two candidates.

Rajat Jain, CIO of Principal MF feels that the stock markets will be largely unaffected by the outcome of the US presidential elections as policy-wise they are unlikely to be on different war-paths.

If Kerry wins, the BPO and IT stocks may take temporary beatings on the bourses in the short term but that is not a big worry to the men on Dalal St. Both are likely to back further liberalisation, said SBI MF CIO Sethuram.

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Old 12-06-2006, 06:34 PM   #32 (permalink)
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alias had belligerently babbled:
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Your statement about the economy is a lie.
I, then, queried of the addled alias:
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Quote the statement that I made about the economy that is a lie?
And what did Ol' Huff'nPuff come up with:
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Journalists Robin Toner, and Kate Zernike, writing for the New York Times, wrote about the newly elected Democrats, who, having won the majority of the Congress, will now have to produce, dealing with, among other things, "the loss of manufacturing jobs".
The statement that I had made was not a lie, but, in fact, a fact. Journalists Robin Toner and Kate Zernike did, in fact, write what I had quoted, and their article can be found at the following link for verification:

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And didn't I just know, somehow, that this is the way this would turn out; so predictable. It looks like alias thrives on making bold and sweeping generalizations, but when called upon the carpet to examine into his ranting, the foundation crumbles, along with his veracity; and, we find that his equivocations are just that; he is just blowing smoke, and now eating crow; and enjoying his favorite dish: SMOKED CROW

Ol' Huff'nPuff, bloating himself up like a ToadFrog, jus' LUV eatin' dat SMOKED CROW. He do LUV eatin' it as much as I LUV servin' it. So, Ol' Huff'nPuff, have another Dish'O'Crow. Yum Yum! Mmmmm Good! I can jus' hear your lips a'smackin'.
Old 12-06-2006, 07:12 PM   #33 (permalink)
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alias had belligerently babbled:

I, then, queried of the addled alias:

And what did Ol' Huff'nPuff come up with:

The statement that I had made was not a lie, but, in fact, a fact. Journalists Robin Toner and Kate Zernike did, in fact, write what I had quoted, and their article can be found at the following link for verification:

ARTICLE

And didn't I just know, somehow, that this is the way this would turn out; so predictable. It looks like alias thrives on making bold and sweeping generalizations, but when called upon the carpet to examine into his ranting, the foundation crumbles, along with his veracity; and, we find that his equivocations are just that; he is just blowing smoke, and now eating crow; and enjoying his favorite dish: SMOKED CROW

Ol' Huff'nPuff, bloating himself up like a ToadFrog, jus' LUV eatin' dat SMOKED CROW. He do LUV eatin' it as much as I LUV servin' it. So, Ol' Huff'nPuff, have another Dish'O'Crow. Yum Yum! Mmmmm Good! I can jus' hear your lips a'smackin'.
Yes, Robin Toner and Kate zernike wrote the article. There is just one problem with your article. It is a lie. You have yet to address my article from NAM. Why is that? Instead of your muttering something about eating a crow, why don't you address the NAM article? It looks to all of us you can't. Keep muttering about your crow. You're beginning to smell like one.

Over the past 4 quarters, 8% growth in business investment and 11% growth in goods exports have counted the 7.7% decine in housing. This has been good for manufacturers, who account for nearly two-thirds of U.S. exports and manufacture capital goods. Continued strong growth in these areas is one of the primary reasons why manufacturing output has risen by 6.2 percent over the past year, or more than double 2.9 percent the pace of overall economy.

Repeating a lie does not make it true. If you are having a hard time with this, you might want to ask your mommy for some help. Maybe she can explain it to you.

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Ol' Huff'nPuff has churlishly chortled:
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Well, I can see that you really do have a SEVERE reading comprehension problem. Once again: It is not MY article.

Now, since you say the article is a lie, point out for all of us here why the article is a lie, and quote from the article.
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Ol' Huff'nPuff has churlishly chortled:

Well, I can see that you really do have a SEVERE reading comprehension problem. Once again: It is not MY article.

Now, since you say the article is a lie, point out for all of us here why the article is a lie, and quote from the article.
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Ol' Huff'nPuff has churlishly chortled:

Well, I can see that you really do have a SEVERE reading comprehension problem. Once again: It is not MY article.

Now, since you say the article is a lie, point out for all of us here why the article is a lie, and quote from the article.
My article refutes your article. My article is right from the National Association of Manufacturers for October which is the latest figures. The writers from the New York Times are liars. The entire New York Times article is a lie.

Is that clear enough for you little miss pee pee?

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Well, not really...

If that is YOUR article, then you must be Chief Economist David Huether. So, Mr. Huether, tell us, what in particular does YOUR article refute in the article written by Journalists Robin Toner and Kate Zernike, other than just "The entire New York Times article is a lie"?
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Well, not really...

If that is YOUR article, then you must be Chief Economist David Huether. So, Mr. Huether, tell us, what in particular does YOUR article refute in the article written by Journalists Robin Toner and Kate Zernike, other than just "The entire New York Times article is a lie"?
You article from the New York Times is a lie. The entire article is a lie. The 2 liberal punks who wrote it are liars. The article I put up from NAM refutes it. You seem to be the only one in the room who can't see it. I really suggest you take a reading comprehension course. Do you liberals ever study anything in school besides Bush is a nazi? Is that clear enough? If not, ask your mommy to explain it to you.
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