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Old 11-27-2006, 08:54 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Journalists Robin Toner, and Kate Zernike, writing for the New York Times, wrote about the newly elected Democrats, who, having won the majority of the Congress, will now have to produce, dealing with, among other things, "the loss of manufacturing jobs".

I don't know why they will bother with that particular item: they already have. They knew damned well what they were doing over a decade ago when they supported -- and right along with the Republicans -- the free trade agreements, and the fast track legislation, that gave the President the power to implement them. It would be hypocritical of them to now, after the fact, decide that something must be done, when something has already been done. How are they going to uncreate something that they have created? I am reminded of the scene in the movie "Cold Mountain". Ruby, played by Renee Zellweger, disgusted with the war, lamented: "Every piece of this is a man's bullshit. They call this war a cloud over the land, but they made the weather. Then they stand in the rain and say: shit! It's raining!"
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Old 11-27-2006, 09:13 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Taxes, tarrifs, union benefits, OSHA regulations and other factors have made it virtually impossible for American companies to turn a profit in America.

What do we expect them to do? Operate at a loss? Or go overseas.
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America is changing from a manufacturing nation to a technological nation. Other nations are taking over the manufacturing jobs as America moves into another area. The fact is unemployment is at a historical low and the economy is booming and Americans are for the most part making more money than ever.

This is another democrat lie being used to further an agenda. Nothing new here.
Old 11-27-2006, 06:41 PM   #4 (permalink)
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America is changing from a manufacturing nation to a technological nation.
Jourrnalist William J. Holstein, writing for the New York Times, conducted an interview:
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July 3, 2005 -- OUTSOURCING will inevitably eliminate many more American jobs, says Ron Hira, assistant professor of public policy at the Rochester Institute of Technology.

Q. Will more jobs be lost offshore?

A. We're just at the beginning of this trend, particularly in the services area. The manufacturing sector is much more mature, but in the services area we're just scratching the surface.

Q. What jobs are likely to move next?

A. Information technology jobs and call-centers jobs were the first movers. Now it's snowballing in industries that are information intensive. Companies in insurance and financial services, in particular, have seen that I.T. operations can be successfully offshored. Because of that, they're beginning to think about types of other jobs like claims processing or financial analysis. We're also seeing it in engineering and design.
Journalist Suketu Mehta wrote:
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July 12, 2005 -- ACCORDING to a confidential memorandum, I.B.M. is cutting 13,000 jobs in the United States and in Europe and creating 14,000 jobs in India. From 2000 to 2015, an estimated three million American jobs will have been outsourced; one in 10 technology jobs will leave these shores by the end of this year. Stories like these have aroused a primal fear in the Western public: that they might soon need to line up outside the Indian Embassy for work visas and their children will have to learn Hindi.
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April 19, 2006 -- A FEW years ago, stories about a scary new kind of outsourcing began making the rounds. Apparently, hospitals were starting to send their radiology work to India, where doctors who make far less than American radiologists do were reading X-rays, M.R.I.'s and CT scans.

It quickly became a signature example of how globalization was moving up the food chain, threatening not just factory and call center workers but the so-called knowledge workers who were supposed to be immune. If radiologists and their $350,000 average salaries weren't safe from the jobs exodus, who was?
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October 27, 2006 -- For years, outsourcing has been a dirty word inside the world of white-shoe law firms.

While certain law firms hired companies to handle travel or records storage, most drew the line at sending client billing or confidential documents out of their offices, let alone out of the country.

A number of large law firms, though, are starting to tiptoe onto far-flung shores.

The latest is Clifford Chance, one of the largest law firms in the world with 29 offices in 20 countries, which will announce plans today to consolidate and move big chunks of its administrative functions like accounting and technological support to an operation in Delhi, India, by next spring.
I don't know what planet you're living on, but you better get a grip. Your job may be next...

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And because journalists wrote it we should believe it!!!! Try again!!!!

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And because journalists wrote it we should believe it!!!! Try again!!!!
Ah, yes... TOTAL DENIAL

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If things are so bad, why is the economy doing so well and unemployment so low?

There were a lot of manufacturing jobs in the 1970s and I worked at one. I am doing much better now. I wonder why that is? Someone is lying to me. Could it be the New York Times? Well maybe. They have been known to lie before. I also heard once, "Don't believe everything you read in the newspaper".
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Someone is lying to me. Could it be the New York Times? Well maybe. They have been known to lie before.
Ah, yes. I see your point: shoot the messenger
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Ah, yes. I see your point: shoot the messenger
Yep, if he lies to me.
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Yep, if he lies to me.
So, what was the lie?
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