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Old 04-02-2007, 02:52 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Old 04-03-2007, 01:27 AM   #32 (permalink)
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This is kind of an odd statement. Everyone is described by some adjective or another. Perhaps you are blonde, or brunette. Or maybe you are happy or sad. Surely some adjectives describe you, and there isn't anything wrong with that.

Now, maybe you are worried about people misinterpreting your score on this test, and maybe you don't think just one or two words can do a good job of describing your wide array of political beliefs. That is understandable.

But also realize that this test is simply for fun: everyone here realizes that political beliefs are more complex than just a few words.
Since you cannot think for yourself I will do it for you. Conservative about what? Liberal about what? Are you catching on yet? Like I said before. The extremely general terms - Consevative and Liberal - are used to influence very stupid people.
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Old 04-03-2007, 12:52 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Since you cannot think for yourself I will do it for you.
Why do you insult? I have not insulted you.

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Conservative about what? Liberal about what? Are you catching on yet? Like I said before. The extremely general terms - Consevative and Liberal - are used to influence very stupid people.
Hmm...I'm not sure where you're disagreeing with me. You're concerned that one word is too general to describe your wide array of political beliefs, right?

But like I said, that test is just for fun. The people on this forum understand that political beliefs are more diverse than this test can measure, or than a single word can describe.
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Old 04-05-2007, 07:16 AM   #34 (permalink)
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Hmm...I'm not sure where you're disagreeing with me. You're concerned that one word is too general to describe your wide array of political beliefs, right?

But like I said, that test is just for fun. The people on this forum understand that political beliefs are more diverse than this test can measure, or than a single word can describe.
Now you get it. Now when you watch Television or listen to the Radio just count how many times a person is described as Liberal or Conservative. Now take the next step to propaganda to control very stupid people.
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Old 04-14-2007, 07:18 AM   #35 (permalink)
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Or perhaps individuals or groups are labelled as conservative or liberal to give the view a better understanding of where this group or person might stand.

Like it or not, Conservatives hold one set of belief and ideals, whereas liberals hold another. By giving this information to the viewer, it better enables them to understand the basis for that group or individuals point of view.

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Old 04-14-2007, 07:38 AM   #36 (permalink)
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Or perhaps individuals or groups are labelled as conservative or liberal to give the view a better understanding of where this group or person might stand.

Like it or not, Conservatives hold one set of belief and ideals, whereas liberals hold another. By giving this information to the viewer, it better enables them to understand the basis for that group or individuals point of view.

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More BS. The same person can be liberal about some issues and conservative about others. So I repeat. The terms Liberal and Conservative used as general terms are used to influence very ignorant people.
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Old 04-22-2007, 10:09 PM   #37 (permalink)
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More BS. The same person can be liberal about some issues and conservative about others. So I repeat. The terms Liberal and Conservative used as general terms are used to influence very ignorant people.
I think you're reacting to this pretty irrationally. It seems to me that you're trying too hard to be 'different' and 'cool'. Yes, liberal and conservative are generalities...but they're just that; generalities. It's not supposed to mean that you fall in line with every single little issue in a certain way; it's meant to give people a general idea of your philosophy. Same thing with calling yourself libertarian, socialist, communist, anarchist, and they even have a term called centrists (go figure), etc..

Whether or not you want to see yourself as the guy who looks back at society and laughs at the mainstream and call them ignorant, there are such things as liberalism and conservatism; and the historical development of these as philosophies and movements are very clear.

To me it seems you have a much better case in bitching about "Democrat" and "Republican". But you're taking this too seriously.
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Old 04-23-2007, 06:30 AM   #38 (permalink)
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I think you're reacting to this pretty irrationally. It seems to me that you're trying too hard to be 'different' and 'cool'. Yes, liberal and conservative are generalities...but they're just that; generalities. It's not supposed to mean that you fall in line with every single little issue in a certain way; it's meant to give people a general idea of your philosophy. Same thing with calling yourself libertarian, socialist, communist, anarchist, and they even have a term called centrists (go figure), etc..

Whether or not you want to see yourself as the guy who looks back at society and laughs at the mainstream and call them ignorant, there are such things as liberalism and conservatism; and the historical development of these as philosophies and movements are very clear.

To me it seems you have a much better case in bitching about "Democrat" and "Republican". But you're taking this too seriously.
Let me try and educate you. When I go to the polls to vote I see - Democrat - Republican - Libertarian - Socialist - Fascist - Green - and others but never ever no time liberal or conservative. Explain to me these Republican tendencies - Pre-emptive War, Running up huge Debts, Protecting Terrorists, Committing Treason; these are things Republican Administrations are doing and have done. For instance, Karl Rove, Dick Cheney and George Bush. Now I give you this challenge - Explain these activities in Liberal and Conservative Terms.
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Old 04-23-2007, 09:12 PM   #39 (permalink)
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Let me try and educate you. When I go to the polls to vote I see - Democrat - Republican - Libertarian - Socialist - Fascist - Green - and others but never ever no time liberal or conservative.
Demonstrating exactly my point that placing you generally with certain schools of thought such as liberalism or conservatism is a more accurate depiction of your philosophy than your party. You can't classify all Democrats as 'liberal', and you can't classify all Republicans as 'conservative'...you can, however, classify certain individuals as one or the other.

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Explain to me these Republican tendencies - Pre-emptive War, Running up huge Debts, Protecting Terrorists, Committing Treason; these are things Republican Administrations are doing and have done. For instance, Karl Rove, Dick Cheney and George Bush. Now I give you this challenge - Explain these activities in Liberal and Conservative Terms.
Now I think you're generalizing and using the party hackery. Party hackery, which is used much more in controlling the ignorant and keeping the public debate within a narrow confine. Those people you listed are Republicans, but not all Republicans agree with their philosophies. Some Republicans are more conservative, and some are more neo-conservative (and many used to be almost libertarian conservative; Goldwater, etc.).

This is why such terms as conservative and liberal are used to differentiate individuals more accurately in terms of their ideologies. I consider myself socialist, and yeah I may sway more left on some issues and more right on others; but to give people a general idea of where my line of thought is coming from we have such a term as socialist.
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Demonstrating exactly my point that placing you generally with certain schools of thought such as liberalism or conservatism is a more accurate depiction of your philosophy than your party. You can't classify all Democrats as 'liberal', and you can't classify all Republicans as 'conservative'...you can, however, classify certain individuals as one or the other.



Now I think you're generalizing and using the party hackery. Party hackery, which is used much more in controlling the ignorant and keeping the public debate within a narrow confine. Those people you listed are Republicans, but not all Republicans agree with their philosophies. Some Republicans are more conservative, and some are more neo-conservative (and many used to be almost libertarian conservative; Goldwater, etc.).

This is why such terms as conservative and liberal are used to differentiate individuals more accurately in terms of their ideologies. I consider myself socialist, and yeah I may sway more left on some issues and more right on others; but to give people a general idea of where my line of thought is coming from we have such a term as socialist.
Thank you for proving my point, when asked a direct question that you could not dodge. You had had to stoop to personal attack rather than answer the question. You say you are a Socialist, boom I know exactly where you stand. You never identified 1 person, I repeat not 1, that is either a Liberal or Conservative.
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