liberalguy, Do you now understand how the flat tax system works??

Good post Mojo Potatoes !

Isn't the flat tax different from the fair tax?

Didn't even notice that

The link to the video was from www.fairtax.org where they talked about the "flat tax".

And in this vein, the House of Representatives acted. On the date 19 August 1982, a resolution, H. Res. 571, was brought before the House of Representatives for consideration which concerned the unconstitutionality of the methods used in the Senate concerning H.R. 4961, Tax Equity and Fiscal Responsibility Act (TEFRA). The resolution declared that the Senate had taken the tax cut that President Reagan had proposed, and that the House of Representatives had acted upon, and added amendments, making it one of the largest tax increases up to that time. Representative Dan Rostenkowski then moved to lay the resolution on the table, a move to sidestep the issue and move on with the bill. The resolution was laid on the table. At issue was the Origination Clause of the Constitution, whereas all bills for raising revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives. Senator Dole, Chairman of the Senate Finance Committee, was asked why TEFRA did not originate in the House, and replied, "Well, I'll be very honest, because the House didn't want to originate it." Representative W. Henson Moore, and several other Congressmen, brought suit before the federal District Court for the District of Columbia, seeking a declaratory judgment that passage of TEFRA infringed upon the powers of the House under the origination clause of the Constitution, and, two days later, Representative Ron Paul filed an identical suit. U.S. District Judge Joyce Hens Green dismissed the plaintiffs' cases for lack of standing. The judge stated that the Plaintiff's in this case were just frustrated because they were outvoted by their fellow legislators.

It says, at the Fair Tax Website: "The current Federal income tax system is broken."

It's not broken; it's the people that are broken. Most folks don't really know what the federal "income tax" is. It has been declared, by the Supreme Court of the United States, that the federal income tax is an excise tax. Mr. Justice William R. Day, delivering the opinion of the United States Supreme Court, explained what an excise tax is: "Excises are "taxes laid upon the manufacture, sale, or consumption of commodities within the country, upon licenses to pursue certain occupations, and upon corporate privileges." Cooley, Const. Lim. 7th ed. 680 ...the requirement to pay such taxes involves the exercise of privileges,..." -- Stella P. Flint v Stone Tracy Company 220 US 107, 151, 152 (1911)

It is recorded, in the Congressional Record: "The income tax is, therefore, not a tax on income as such. It is an excise tax with respect to certain activities and privileges which is measured by reference to the income which they produce. The income is not the subject of the tax: it is the basis for determining the amount of tax."

Chief Justice Edward D. White, delivering the opinion of the Supreme Court of the United States, and quoting from a previous case, stated: "In the matter of taxation, the Constitution recognizes the two great classes of direct and indirect taxes, and lays down two rules by which their imposition must be governed, namely: The rule of apportionment as to direct taxes, and the rule of uniformity as to duties, imposts and excises." -- Pollock v Farmers' Loan & Trust Company 157 US 429, 557 (1895) Brushaber v Union Pacific Railroad Co. 240 US 1, 13 (1916)

The Congress was never granted the power to lay a direct tax upon the inhabitants of the States.

I don't know about other countries. However, there is something you might not understand about Taiwan. Well, I appriciates American. Because of you, we are still living in front of the mouth of a ugly tiger yet not been eaten. If not for American, maybe we are now enslaved by Chinese communitists.

However, we have never bought weapon which is match to its price. For example, the price we bought a P3-C is 3 times more than Korean bought the same thing. The submarine quotation for taiwan is 5 times the price sold to Australia. Why we have to pay such a price? Well, all the other countries are subdued by the stress from China not to sold weapon to taiwan. Only Amercan dear to sell us weapon.

As a result, we don't cost you too much money. The weapons we bought from you are always those that are no longer used or ready to retire from service. And we pay a very good price. won't you feel happy?

I couldn't vote.
You forgot Boston Tea Party!
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hahaha My God!

I Think we would have to create a "FLATTER TAX" method.

If we just paid taxes on what we bought the poor would
really suffer. A family of 4 will eat, drink, and consume pretty
much the same amount, whether they make $30K/yr or $300K/yr.

But everyone should pay some taxes even if it's just $1/yr, be it
a token payment. Everyone should take part in taking care of our
country.

And on the other side of the spectrum, those good for nothing
Oil companies that screw us over and make record profits off of
our misery should pay 90% taxes!

Well first we should worry about the corrupt US government
before we worry about the tax system don't you think?