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Budget and Taxes Do you feel that raising taxes will help solve the debt of the United States? Are you a fan of Reaganomics?

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Old 05-18-2006, 04:10 PM   #61 (permalink)
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90% of them can.

Stop ignoring that fact, because ignoring it will NOT make it go away - no matter HOW MUCH TAXPAYER MONEY you throw at it.

I don't buy that republican BS for a second. When the top 1% own more than the bottom 90% that has absolutely NOTHING to do with laziness, it has to do with greed, corruption, and corporate immorality.
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I don't buy that republican BS for a second. When the top 1% own more than the bottom 90% that has absolutely NOTHING to do with laziness, it has to do with greed, corruption, and corporate immorality.
Bull Crap.

It may be 1% of CORPORATIONS but it is NOT 1% of INDIVIDUALS.

Now, answer me this, O Liberal Excuse Maker:

HOW COME IMMIGRANTS FROM PLACES LIKE CHINA, JAPAN, LAOS, ETHIOPEA, SUDAN, MEXICO INDIA AND THE SLAVIC COUNTRIES ARE COMING TO AMERICA AND MAKING A GOOD LIVING FOR THEMSELVES?

And how come, IF THEY CAN DO IT, the people who already live here "cannot" do it?


I'll give you a hint. It is NOT the lack of opportunity.

I'll give you another hint. It IS the lack of motivation.
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Bull Crap.

It may be 1% of CORPORATIONS but it is NOT 1% of INDIVIDUALS.

Now, answer me this, O Liberal Excuse Maker:

HOW COME IMMIGRANTS FROM PLACES LIKE CHINA, JAPAN, LAOS, ETHIOPEA, SUDAN, MEXICO INDIA AND THE SLAVIC COUNTRIES ARE COMING TO AMERICA AND MAKING A GOOD LIVING FOR THEMSELVES?

And how come, IF THEY CAN DO IT, the people who already live here "cannot" do it?


I'll give you a hint. It is NOT the lack of opportunity.

I'll give you another hint. It IS the lack of motivation.

Do you have any stats to back up your assumption that immigrants are not working several full time jobs to earn a livable wage? Because that is the "liberal excuse" that allows people to get by from paycheck to paycheck while the TOP 1% OF INDIVIDUALS OWN MORE THAN THE BOTTOM 90%.
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Do you have any stats to back up your assumption that immigrants are not working several full time jobs to earn a livable wage? Because that is the "liberal excuse" that allows people to get by from paycheck to paycheck while the TOP 1% OF INDIVIDUALS OWN MORE THAN THE BOTTOM 90%.
It's still Bull Crap!

Why do you REFUSE to answer this question?

HOW COME MEXICANS CAN TRAVEL 1500 MILES TO GET JOBS THAT START AT OVER $10 PER HOUR, PLUS BENEFITS, WHILE WHITES AND BLACKS CAN'T GO ACROSS TOWN FOR THE EXACT SAME JOB?
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It's still Bull Crap!

Why do you REFUSE to answer this question?

HOW COME MEXICANS CAN TRAVEL 1500 MILES TO GET JOBS THAT START AT OVER $10 PER HOUR, PLUS BENEFITS, WHILE WHITES AND BLACKS CAN'T GO ACROSS TOWN FOR THE EXACT SAME JOB?

You pay the illegal less than a black man under the threat of deportation. Isn't it all about the bottom line republican?
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You pay the illegal less than a black man under the threat of deportation. Isn't it all about the bottom line republican?
Absolute BS and Liberal Lies.

The packing plant has ads in the paper all the time - "help wanted". The black man receives the SAME pay as the Mexican, who receives the same pay as the white man - assuming he actually goes in and applies.

You REFUSE to answer the question I'm going to CONTINUE to ask:
HOW COME MEXICANS CAN TRAVEL 1500 MILES TO GET JOBS THAT START AT OVER $10 PER HOUR, PLUS BENEFITS, WHILE WHITES AND BLACKS CAN'T GO ACROSS TOWN FOR THE EXACT SAME JOB?
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Absolute BS and Liberal Lies.

The packing plant has ads in the paper all the time - "help wanted". The black man receives the SAME pay as the Mexican, who receives the same pay as the white man - assuming he actually goes in and applies.

You REFUSE to answer the question I'm going to CONTINUE to ask:
HOW COME MEXICANS CAN TRAVEL 1500 MILES TO GET JOBS THAT START AT OVER $10 PER HOUR, PLUS BENEFITS, WHILE WHITES AND BLACKS CAN'T GO ACROSS TOWN FOR THE EXACT SAME JOB?

Dignity is high up on the list. Mexicans have it so shitty that what America offers is gold to them. Does that mean that 10 dollars is a just, livable wage for our citizens? HELL NO. It wouldn't take radical action to resolve this injustice. All it would take is the top 1% owning more than the bottom 70% instead of 90%, or the top 10% owning more than the bottom 50% instead of 70%. It isn't radically liberal to give everyone a fair, respectable, living wage. We have to combat the results of an inhumane capitalist system that is inherently corrupted by the human’s natural tendency towards greed.


Average Mexican Worker's Income Varies by State along the Northern Border

Sonora workers earn less than residents of all the other border states, according to an article in the Hermosillo, Sonora newspaper El Imparcial. The average salary of a Sonoran worker is 4,042 pesos (approximately US$368 per month while the national average is 5,051 pesos (US$459) per month. Sonora ranks number 22 out of Mexico's 32 federal entities (31 states and the Federal District) in terms of the average worker's salary.
The federal entity with the highest average salary was the Federal District at 6,939 pesos per month. In second place was Nuevo León at 5,661.

http://www.nmsu.edu/~frontera/mar-apr04/comm.html
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Dignity is high up on the list. Mexicans have it so shitty that what America offers is gold to them. Does that mean that 10 dollars is a just, livable wage for our citizens? HELL NO. It wouldn't take radical action to resolve this injustice. All it would take is the top 1% owning more than the bottom 70% instead of 90%, or the top 10% owning more than the bottom 50% instead of 70%. It isn't radically liberal to give everyone a fair, respectable, living wage. We have to combat the results of an inhuman capitalist system that is inherently corrupted by the human’s natural tendency towards greed.


Average Mexican Worker's Income Varies by State along the Northern Border

Sonora workers earn less than residents of all the other border states, according to an article in the Hermosillo, Sonora newspaper El Imparcial. The average salary of a Sonoran worker is 4,042 pesos (approximately US$368 per month while the national average is 5,051 pesos (US$459) per month. Sonora ranks number 22 out of Mexico's 32 federal entities (31 states and the Federal District) in terms of the average worker's salary.
The federal entity with the highest average salary was the Federal District at 6,939 pesos per month. In second place was Nuevo León at 5,661.

http://www.nmsu.edu/~frontera/mar-apr04/comm.html
Your link talks about what is being paid IN MEXICO. What does that have to do with what Mexicans are being paid, at packing plants, in the United States? NOTHING.

Stop trying to divert attention away from the question you REFUSE to answer.

$10 per hour, plus benefits, AS A STARTING WAGE is GOOD MONEY.

And again, you REFUSE to answer my question.
WHY ARE MEXICANS TRAVELLING 1500 MILES AND GETTING GOOD JOBS THAT BLACKS AND WHITES WON'T GO ACROSS TOWN FOR?

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Your link talks about what is being paid IN MEXICO. What does that have to do with what Mexicans are being paid, at packing plants, in the United States? NOTHING.

Stop trying to divert attention away from the question you REFUSE to answer.

$10 per hour, plus benefits, AS A STARTING WAGE is GOOD MONEY.

And again, you REFUSE to answer my question.
WHY ARE MEXICANS TRAVELLING 1500 MILES AND GETTING GOOD JOBS THAT BLACKS AND WHITES WON'T GO ACROSS TOWN FOR?


Because in America Mexicans can make a lot more than in their homeland. Does this make it a fair, livable, and dignified wage for our citizens? Hell no.

They cram as many people into an apartment as they can to save on rent and then send the rest of the money home. Ever been to a Western Union? Guess not.
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Because in America Mexicans can make a lot more than in their homeland. Does this make it a fair, livable, and dignified wage for our citizens? Hell no.

They cram as many people into an apartment as they can to save on rent and then send the rest of the money home. Ever been to a Western Union? Guess not.
Wrong answer!

The correct answer is: MOTIVATION.

That is why Socialism and Communism DO NOT WORK. They both completely destroy any motivation to work hard.

Mexicans, Asians and near-Easterners are succeeding in America BECAUSE THEY WANT TO.

Blacks and WhiteS are failing in America BECAUSE THEY ARE LAZY, AND EXPECT EVERYTHING TO BE HANDED TO THEM.
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