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Big Government or Small Government?

Budget and Taxes Do you feel that raising taxes will help solve the debt of the United States? Are you a fan of Reaganomics?

View Poll Results: Big Government or Small Government?
Increased Government Spending with Tax Increase 3 15.79%
Reduced Spending with Tax Cut 11 57.89%
Reduced Without Tax Cut 5 26.32%
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Old 05-06-2005, 05:40 PM   #41 (permalink)
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Smaller government. Power to the people.

The government should be much less involved in our daily lives, and should not be so quick to regulate everything that comes down the pike.
Thats right... Larger Government = Less power to the people, less rights, and less freedoms.
And Hevusa..how can you still claim the size of the federal government has nothing to do with how free the society is??...

It is more important what the government is doing rather than the size of it. Even if it was HUGE but doing the right thing for the people I would have no problem with it.
How about the people do the right thing for themselves. How about people stop looking for hand-outs and get off thier asses and work. We should not depend on the government to holf our hands and play mommy. If we do, eventually they will have to spank us... then prissy little cowards will really cry...
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First off let us clear up one inaccuracy. There is no such thing as a corporate of business tax. It is a myth created by liberals to play their game of class warfare.

Corporate/business taxes are not paid for by the corporations/businesses, rather they are paid by the consumers who pay a higher price for the products offered. Consumers pay the taxes not the businesses, everytime a corporate tax is lowered, that decrease is passed on to the consumers, everytime it is raised, we see increases in the price of items. Again it is a myth, plain and simple.

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That is funny. I own two corporations and just sent a fat tax check to the government for taxes. Unfortunately most of it will go to our empirical military to secure oil instead of helping the people that form the base of our society.

That myth of yours sure hurts my mythical wallet.
That 'empirical military' defends your right to dislike them so much. You ought to show a little more grattitude. The sacrifices we ake don't come from our precious wallets.
I think our soldiers have become a joke in the eyes of the world. And I think anyone who would risk their life to defend such a corrupt government is either completely blind to it or has a screw loose.

Now let me explain something to you pal...

First off our Soldiers, Sailors, Airmen and Marines compose the finest and best trained military force the world has ever seen. They are most certainly not a joke. And if you think someone who loves the country which provides you the very freedoms you excercise so much, has a screw loose because of thier willingness to die for it than I say you are a coward sir.

Death will eventually come to us all. I for one would rather die defending something I love, something greater than myself, greater than us all, than to die old and alone. No, our government is not perfect, but it is the best this planet has seen. The true greatness of the American system comes from the fact that it is dynamic and ever changing. It is a system steered by the people. Whether we like what is going on or not, it is happeneing because of the expressed interests of the people. The fact that most Americans are too lazy to avail themselves of the Democratic system we enjoy, is not a flaw with the system, but rather a flaw with the people. It is a flaw that come with the complacency of time. Something you are so clearly demonstrating in your ingnorant post.

The American people have become so complacent in the safety and freedom that WE (the military) so humbly provide that they are no longer willing to fight and die for it. It has become so ubiquitous and expected in our daily lives that we no longer realize how precious a dream it is, we no longer hold it dear. No we take advantage of it and use it like a whore. But as soon as the time comes to defend it people like you would rather stay SAFE and COMFORTABLE at home, while REAL AMERICANS are ready willing and eager to go and do thier duty wherever it calls.

I speak on behalf on Nurses, Teachers, Police, Fire Fighters, and the U.S. Military when I tell you to go to hell sir, if you want to criticize me for choosing to serve my country. I do not love those I defend, nor do I hate those that I fight, but I do love the principles on which this country was founded.

Just because you may be too much of a coward to risk your neck does not mean the rest of us are. And what the hell is so precious about your life that you are so concerned with losing it anyway? Is it not meaningless if it is not spent dedicated to something greater than you, whether that be service to country, or your god, or research to benefit the greater good?

Americans have never been a group of people that abide cowardice sir.

I guess this is why you will never become a frog.

Anyone that would aid such a corrupt organization, such as our government, has no honor in my eyes.
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haha, I'm sorry but that was just terribly funny.

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So why do you support a bigger government??
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haha, I'm sorry but that was just terribly funny.

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Anyone that would aid such a corrupt organization, such as our government, has no honor in my eyes.
So why do you support a bigger government??



I feel what the government is doing is more important than it's size. I don't care if it is big or small as long as it does the right thing for all it's people.
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And anyone who would support a socialist government over the freedom of our republic, deserves to die on their knees rather than living life on their feet. We are far from perfect, but the last time I checked, people were still dying, and I mean that literally, to get into this country. I don't see them breaking down Cuba's door, or for that matter many other doors, but here they will try to get in any way they can.

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And anyone who would support a socialist government over the freedom of our republic, deserves to die on their knees rather than living life on their feet. We are far from perfect, but the last time I checked, people were still dying, and I mean that literally, to get into this country. I don't see them breaking down Cuba's door, or for that matter many other doors, but here they will try to get in any way they can.

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It isn't because we are so fucking great. It is because they have it so fucking bad. Get off your high horse.
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And anyone who would support a socialist government over the freedom of our republic, deserves to die on their knees rather than living life on their feet. We are far from perfect, but the last time I checked, people were still dying, and I mean that literally, to get into this country. I don't see them breaking down Cuba's door, or for that matter many other doors, but here they will try to get in any way they can.

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It isn't because we are so fucking great. It is because they have it so fucking bad. Get off your high horse.
Who are you to accuse someone of being on a high horse? You have proven yourself to be little more than a hypocritical coward, and you are on some sort of a high horse of your own. Why don't you come back anc talk when you have some genuine life experience son. In the mean time, sit down and shut up.
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And anyone who would support a socialist government over the freedom of our republic, deserves to die on their knees rather than living life on their feet. We are far from perfect, but the last time I checked, people were still dying, and I mean that literally, to get into this country. I don't see them breaking down Cuba's door, or for that matter many other doors, but here they will try to get in any way they can.

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It isn't because we are so fucking great. It is because they have it so fucking bad. Get off your high horse.
Who are you to accuse someone of being on a high horse? You have proven yourself to be little more than a hypocritical coward, and you are on some sort of a high horse of your own. Why don't you come back anc talk when you have some genuine life experience son. In the mean time, sit down and shut up.
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It isn't because we are so fucking great. It is because they have it so fucking bad. Get off your high horse.
Yet what other country are they dying to get in again???? So we may not be fucking great, but I guess by your hypothesis, every other country is that fucking bad.

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It isn't because we are so fucking great. It is because they have it so fucking bad. Get off your high horse.
Yet what other country are they dying to get in again???? So we may not be fucking great, but I guess by your hypothesis, every other country is that fucking bad.

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There are immigrants worldwide. It isn't unique to America. But here our neighbors to our south have it so much worse than us. Want to solve our immigration problem? Help them make their homeland better. But we don't seem to give a shit about our own people... you people on this board have convinced me of this. So why would we want to help them?

Pathetic views coming from an isolated populous.
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