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Budget and Taxes Do you feel that raising taxes will help solve the debt of the United States? Are you a fan of Reaganomics?

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Old 04-06-2007, 08:29 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Do you believe that the federal government was granted the power to lay a direct tax upon the inhabitants of the States?
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The 16th Amendment to the Constitution, unfortunately, permits the collection of an income tax. I believe that it should be repealed and the government be financed by a "Fair Tax". If you are not familiar with it, then follow this:
Americans For Fair Taxation: FairTax.org
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Do you believe that the federal government was granted the power to lay a direct tax upon the inhabitants of the States?
I believe it was the 16th amendment that granted that power to the government. What a pity so much of our tax dollars go to waste on stupid hand-out programs and ill thought wars.
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The 16th Amendment to the Constitution, unfortunately, permits the collection of an income tax.
There were income taxes before the 16th Amendment. According to the United States Supreme Court, the 16th Amendment granted no new taxing powers to government.
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The Constitution did not give the Congress the power to lay a direct tax. However, the 16th Amendment granted the Goverment the power to collect an income tax without regards to apportionment. Thus we have our now infamous progressive tax system.

The Supreme Court was correct in ruling that the 16th Amendment did not grant the government any new taxing powers, Congress always had the right to lay and collect taxes. The 16th Amendment removed the requirement for apportionment. Apportionment would require the individuals of a state to pay a percentage equal to their percentage of population of the Country. For example, if Alaska has 5% of the country's population, the residents of Alaska would be responsible for paying 5% of the country's taxes.

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sgtdmski wrote:
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The Constitution did not give the Congress the power to lay a direct tax.
Of course it did: Article 1 § 9 c4

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However, the 16th Amendment granted the Goverment the power to collect an income tax without regards to apportionment.
And the Supreme Court declared, in a unanimous opinion, that because the "income tax" was "without regards to apportionment", it was an excise tax, in the category of the indirect tax.

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The Supreme Court was correct in ruling that the 16th Amendment did not grant the government any new taxing powers, Congress always had the right to lay and collect taxes. The 16th Amendment removed the requirement for apportionment. Apportionment would require the individuals of a state to pay a percentage equal to their percentage of population of the Country.
Direct taxes are not laid upon the individual. They are laid upon the States.
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gmeyers1944 wrote:
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The 16th Amendment to the Constitution, unfortunately, permits the collection of an income tax. I believe that it should be repealed and the government be financed by a "Fair Tax".
Which category of taxation would you say that the "Fair Tax" would be in?
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