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Old 05-31-2006, 04:14 PM   #61 (permalink)
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And so what's your point?

It's long-since been established that there was a stock market crash in 1929.
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Backpedalling at its finest.

You are WRONG about the American economy, though you refuse to admit it. All you can do is cry about "what might happen."
You know NOTHING about how the National Debt affects the economy, even though you copy & pasted some crap article that contained nothing but speculation.
You are WRONG about Mexicans, you racist. And even though you claim you are personal friends with so many of them, you obviously are lying. Most of them are NOT working for slave wages, but rather, are hard-working productive members of the communities they settle and live in.

Anything else you'd like to expose your ignorance on?
I have simply stated what I feel is the truth. If that was back pedalling you are the king of this concept. Every post in here is your opinion and nothing has pointed to the fact that you know a thing about the economy. You are arguing for the sake of argument. You still refuse to present any evidence that our economy will remain stable. It is all just Blah, Blah, Blah. Your comments are what might happen too, all of them. Not once have you provided anything to back your claims. As for the copy and paste, I'm glad you like it. Try finding something that will back your claims. Other than that I am done with this thread. I've asked you for proof of your words in almost every post. All you can do is run your mouth. Not a bit of evidence. Pretty much your typical troll. I am done crossing this bridge. Have a great night.
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Old 05-31-2006, 05:05 PM   #63 (permalink)
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I have simply stated what I feel is the truth. If that was back pedalling you are the king of this concept. 1.Every post in here is your opinion and nothing has pointed to the fact that you know a thing about the economy. You are arguing for the sake of argument. 2. You still refuse to present any evidence that our economy will remain stable. It is all just Blah, Blah, Blah. Your comments are what might happen too, all of them. 3. Not once have you provided anything to back your claims. As for the copy and paste, I'm glad you like it. 4. Try finding something that will back your claims. Other than that I am done with this thread. I've asked you for proof of your words in almost every post. All you can do is run your mouth. Not a bit of evidence. Pretty much your typical troll. 5. I am done crossing this bridge. Have a great night.
1. I have continued to say that the American economy is strong and robust - WHICH IT IS. You just couldn't leave it alone, since there's a Republican in the Whitehouse - so you jumped in and made a fool of yourself.

2. I have never said that the economy will remain stable. That is another of your ASSumptions.

3. Wrong again. I have provided numerous links showing that the American economy is strong and robust RIGHT NOW - despite the fact that you hate President Bush.

4. Already done. All you have to do is read - which, apparently, you're not very good at.

5. Nice concession speech, Mister Kerry.
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OK...

There are two main reasons why having a high national debt is bad for the economy.

1. If our creditors decide that we aren't going to make good on our debt, then we're in big trouble. Basically, the government has to raise federal interest rates in order to pay off the interest on the debt. As a result, interest rates on everything else go up... Mortgages, credit cards, cars, etc. As a result people buy less, or buy smaller, or buy cheaper, which causes an economic recession.

2. Just paying off the interest on a high debt hurts the economy. Right now, 15 cents of every tax dollar goes to paying off the interest on the debt, most of which is held be foreign organizations. That means billions of dollars are leaving the US, and aren't being returned to Americans like tax dollars are, in services and the pockets of politicians, who, at least, are American.
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1. I have continued to say that the American economy is strong and robust - WHICH IT IS. You just couldn't leave it alone, since there's a Republican in the Whitehouse - so you jumped in and made a fool of yourself.

2. I have never said that the economy will remain stable. That is another of your ASSumptions.

3. Wrong again. I have provided numerous links showing that the American economy is strong and robust RIGHT NOW - despite the fact that you hate President Bush.

4. Already done. All you have to do is read - which, apparently, you're not very good at.

5. Nice concession speech, Mister Kerry.
You posted a couple of links at the beginning of this thread saying how robust the economy is. I said it will not continue and you asked for some backing. I posted the bloomberg thing because you ask for some proof. Then you did nothing but claim how I know nothing about it and that the bloomberg report is just speculation. Then you claim you have posted links to support your attack on my stance that the economy will fail from all the borrowing and spending. Then you say you never did that. You say you only said the economy is good right now.
Why attack my stance then? I never said the economy wasn't good right now and you claim you only made the same statement. Attacking my stance is the same thing as saying the economy will continue to be healthy. I guess if we agree the economy is good now and you claim you haven't speculated on it's future, then case closed.
Our economy will fail at our current rate of borrowing and growing deficit. Just wait until interest rates start to rise and see what happens.
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Old 06-01-2006, 10:08 AM   #66 (permalink)
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You posted a couple of links at the beginning of this thread saying how robust the economy is. I said it will not continue and you asked for some backing. I posted the bloomberg thing because you ask for some proof. Then you did nothing but claim how I know nothing about it and that the bloomberg report is just speculation. Then you claim you have posted links to support your attack on my stance that the economy will fail from all the borrowing and spending. Then you say you never did that. You say you only said the economy is good right now.
Why attack my stance then? I never said the economy wasn't good right now and you claim you only made the same statement. Attacking my stance is the same thing as saying the economy will continue to be healthy. I guess if we agree the economy is good now and you claim you haven't speculated on it's future, then case closed.
Our economy will fail at our current rate of borrowing and growing deficit. Just wait until interest rates start to rise and see what happens.


THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!
THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!
THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!


Okay, Chicken Little.


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THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!
THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!
THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!


Okay, Chicken Little.


Come back when you need your butt kicked again.
Oh we know this one well!

WMds are falling!

Narrator: Chicken Georgie was in the woods one day when a WMD fell on his head. It scared him so much he trembled all over. He shook so hard, half his feathers fell out.

Chicken Georgie: "Help! Help! The WMDs is falling! I have to go tell the Congress!"

Narrator: So he ran in great fright to tell the Congress. Along the way he met Henny Cheney.

Henny Cheney
: "Where are you going, Chicken Georgie?"

Chicken Georgie: "Oh, help! The WMDs is falling!"

Henny Cheney
: "How do you know?"

Chicken Georgie
: "I saw it with my own eyes, and heard it with my own ears, and part of it fell on my head!"

Henny Cheney: "This is terrible, just terrible! We'd better hurry up."

Narrator: So they both ran away as fast as they could. Soon they met Ducky Rumsfeld.

Ducky Rumsfeld
: "Where are you going, Chicken Georgie and Henny Chenny?"

Chicken Georgie & Henny Cheney: "The WMDs is falling! The WMDs is falling! We're going to tell the Congress!"

Ducky Rumsfeld: "How do you know?"

Chicken Georgie
: "I saw it with my own eyes, and heard it with my own ears, and part of it fell on my head."

Ducky Rumsfeld: "Oh dear, oh dear! We'd better run!"

Narrator: So they all ran down the road as fast as they could. Soon they met Goosey Powell walking down the roadside.

Goosey Powell
"Hello there. Where are you all going in such a hurry?"

Chicken Georgie: "We're running for our lives!"

Henny Cheney: "The WMDs is falling!"

Ducky Rumsfeld: "And we're running to tell the Congress!"

Goosey Powell: "How do you know the WMDs is falling?"

Chicken Georgie: "I saw it with my own eyes, and heard it with my own ears, and part of it fell on my head!"

Goosey Powell
: "Goodness! Then I'd better run with you."

Narrator: And they all ran in great fright across a field. Before long they met Turkey Rice strutting back and forth..

Turkey Rice
: "Hello there, Chicken Georgie, Henny Cheney, Ducky Rumsfeld, and Goosey Powell. Where are you all going in such a hurry?"

Chicken Georgie
: "Help! Help!"

Henny Cheney: "We're running for our lives!"

Ducky Rumsfeld: "The WMDs is falling!"

Goosey Powell: "And we're running to tell the Congress!"

On & on & on……………
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The ancient Greeks used to say, "You shall know a man by the friends that he keeps." Given the nature of their friends and advisers, what are we to conclude about the Republican party:
Stop the madness before us it stops!
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Old 06-01-2006, 01:09 PM   #68 (permalink)
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Same information about Iraq given to Congress as to the President.
Same conclusions.
Same decisions.



Go cry me a river.



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Oh we know this one well!

WMds are falling!

Narrator: Chicken Georgie was in the woods one day when a WMD fell on his head. It scared him so much he trembled all over. He shook so hard, half his feathers fell out.

Chicken Georgie: "Help! Help! The WMDs is falling! I have to go tell the Congress!"

Narrator: So he ran in great fright to tell the Congress. Along the way he met Henny Cheney.

Henny Cheney
: "Where are you going, Chicken Georgie?"

Chicken Georgie: "Oh, help! The WMDs is falling!"

Henny Cheney
: "How do you know?"

Chicken Georgie
: "I saw it with my own eyes, and heard it with my own ears, and part of it fell on my head!"

Henny Cheney: "This is terrible, just terrible! We'd better hurry up."

Narrator: So they both ran away as fast as they could. Soon they met Ducky Rumsfeld.

Ducky Rumsfeld
: "Where are you going, Chicken Georgie and Henny Chenny?"

Chicken Georgie & Henny Cheney: "The WMDs is falling! The WMDs is falling! We're going to tell the Congress!"

Ducky Rumsfeld: "How do you know?"

Chicken Georgie
: "I saw it with my own eyes, and heard it with my own ears, and part of it fell on my head."

Ducky Rumsfeld: "Oh dear, oh dear! We'd better run!"

Narrator: So they all ran down the road as fast as they could. Soon they met Goosey Powell walking down the roadside.

Goosey Powell
"Hello there. Where are you all going in such a hurry?"

Chicken Georgie: "We're running for our lives!"

Henny Cheney: "The WMDs is falling!"

Ducky Rumsfeld: "And we're running to tell the Congress!"

Goosey Powell: "How do you know the WMDs is falling?"

Chicken Georgie: "I saw it with my own eyes, and heard it with my own ears, and part of it fell on my head!"

Goosey Powell
: "Goodness! Then I'd better run with you."

Narrator: And they all ran in great fright across a field. Before long they met Turkey Rice strutting back and forth..

Turkey Rice
: "Hello there, Chicken Georgie, Henny Cheney, Ducky Rumsfeld, and Goosey Powell. Where are you all going in such a hurry?"

Chicken Georgie
: "Help! Help!"

Henny Cheney: "We're running for our lives!"

Ducky Rumsfeld: "The WMDs is falling!"

Goosey Powell: "And we're running to tell the Congress!"

On & on & on……………
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THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!
THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!
THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!


Okay, Chicken Little.


Come back when you need your butt kicked again.
I just explained why a high national debt is harmful to the economy, in plain language. Care to refute me?
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I just explained why a high national debt is harmful to the economy, in plain language. Care to refute me?
You gave PART of the reason - PART of an explanation. Thank you.



...interesting how Cryrey & Intangible cannot even do that much.
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