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Old 06-01-2006, 08:27 PM   #81 (permalink)
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...but apparently, you've not watched Napoleon Dyanamite.
Oh, I have. I don't really see what the big deal was. It was funny, but waaaay overhyped.
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Old 06-01-2006, 08:32 PM   #82 (permalink)
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I'll take the fact that you haven't posted any reasons why a large deficit and high interest rates aren't bad for the economy as a concession.
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I'll take the fact that you haven't posted any reasons why a large deficit and high interest rates aren't bad for the economy as a concession.
Here's the funny thing about that.

I HAVE NEVER SAID THAT THE LARGE DEFICIT IS NOT HARMFUL TO THE ECONOMY! You and your buddies just ASSumed that. What I have continued to say is that people like Tyeray have NO IDEA HOW THE DEFICIT AFFECTS THE ECONOMY. And he's proven that he has NO IDEA.

Furthermore, I have NEVER said that the American economy will REMAIN STRONG. That's another erroneous ASSumption some of you have made. The fact it, it's inevitable that it WILL take a down-turn. It always does. It's part of the cycle.

As per "interest rates", they remain lower than they've been in DECADES. 20 years ago we (my wife and I, not you and I) bought a house with an 11% mortgage. Our current mortgage is locked in at 6%.
Old 06-01-2006, 08:55 PM   #84 (permalink)
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Here's the funny thing about that.

I HAVE NEVER SAID THAT THE LARGE DEFICIT IS NOT HARMFUL TO THE ECONOMY! You and your buddies just ASSumed that. What I have continued to say is that people like Tyeray have NO IDEA HOW THE DEFICIT AFFECTS THE ECONOMY. And he's proven that he has NO IDEA.

Furthermore, I have NEVER said that the American economy will REMAIN STRONG. That's another erroneous ASSumption some of you have made. The fact it, it's inevitable that it WILL take a down-turn. It always does. It's part of the cycle.

As per "interest rates", they remain lower than they've been in DECADES. 20 years ago we (my wife and I, not you and I) bought a house with an 11% mortgage. Our current mortgage is locked in at 6%.
Greenspan raised the federal interest rates twice before his retirement... And all I've been saying is that the deficit will hurt the economy. Your response seemed negative. I'm sorry if you gave me the wrong impression.
Old 06-02-2006, 12:47 AM   #85 (permalink)
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Same information about Iraq given to Congress as to the President.
Same conclusions.
Same decisions.



Go cry me a river.

FACT: Congress gave no declaration of war!


Even the British government admitted the case against Bin Laden and Al Qaeda would not stand up in court and as a matter of fact it was routinely derided in the British press. There was nothing there. Now I don't know myself who was behind the terrorist attacks on September 11. And it appears we are never going to find out.
Why? Because Congress in its wisdom has decided not to empanel a joint committee of both Houses of Congress with subpoena power giving them access to whatever documents they want throughout any agency of the United States government including FBI, CIA, NSA, DSA. And to put these people under oath and testify as to what happened under penalty of perjury.
We are not going to get that investigation and yet today we are waging war against Afghanistan and Iraq on evidence that Secretary of State Powell publicly stated is not even circumstantial. Now let's look at the law.
Immediately after the attacks President Bush's first statement that he made in Florida was to call these attacks an act of terrorism. Now under United States domestic law we have a definition of terrorism and clearly this would qualify as an act or acts of terrorism.
But certainly under United States domestic law this qualified as an act of terrorism. What happened?
Well again according to the New Speak Times, President Bush consulted with Secretary Powell and all of a sudden they changed the rhetoric and characterization of what happened here. They now called it an act of war. And clearly this was not an act of war. There are enormous differences in how you treat an act of terrorism and how you treat an act of war. We have dealt with acts of terrorism before. And normally acts of terrorism are dealt with as a matter of international and domestic law enforcement.
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Old 06-02-2006, 09:29 AM   #86 (permalink)
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Greenspan raised the federal interest rates twice before his retirement... And all I've been saying is that the deficit will hurt the economy. Your response seemed negative. I'm sorry if you gave me the wrong impression.
How many times did he lower them?



Short memory, 'eh?
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[quote=Jefferson, Short memory, 'eh?[/QUOTE]

Don't tell your secret!

Bush and co. use the same, I don't remember!
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The ancient Greeks used to say, "You shall know a man by the friends that he keeps." Given the nature of their friends and advisers, what are we to conclude about the Republican party:
Stop the madness before us it stops!
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Old 06-02-2006, 12:01 PM   #88 (permalink)
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Don't tell your secret!

Bush and co. use the same, I don't remember!
Answer the question.


Or aren't you capable?
Old 06-02-2006, 12:18 PM   #89 (permalink)
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Answer the question.


Or aren't you capable?
What question? Are you proposing to me?



I don't swing that way sorry!

Greenspan got the fuck out before it collapses! DUH!
He had a very cushy job but cannot balance an economy against this!


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http://www.uwsa.com/uwsa-usdebt.html
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Stop the madness before us it stops!
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Old 06-02-2006, 12:55 PM   #90 (permalink)
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What question? Are you proposing to me?



I don't swing that way sorry!

Greenspan got the fuck out before it collapses! DUH!
He had a very cushy job but cannot balance an economy against this!


It's the Debt . Don't Forget
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http://www.uwsa.com/uwsa-usdebt.html
...and you still didn't answer the question.
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