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Old 10-27-2006, 02:25 AM   #41 (permalink)
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Hey come on now!!! IT'S THE ECONOMY STUPID!!!! If the people vote with their pocketbooks as most political pollsters believe, the Democrats don't want to say anything about the economy. Its a losing proposition for them, I mean come on, the DOW is over 12000 for the first time in history, the economy grew at a rate of 4.1%, unemployment is below 5%, jobs have been added for 37 straight months, employee compensation grew at a 6.1% annual rate, average gasoline prices have dropped to $2.21 a gallon, and the deficit has been cut in half three years earlier than the 2009 goal and now stands at 248 Billion. Now there is nothing in the economy the Democrats want to talk about. Unless of course you mention the housing market, however, when home ownership is at an all time high, the slowdown is not really a big deal now is it???

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Old 10-27-2006, 05:59 AM   #42 (permalink)
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Yeah, but how many of you guys ever mention the national debt of $8,559,074,198,219?
The National Debt has continued to increase an average of
$1.60 billion per day since September 30, 2005! All the rest of the figures pale in comparison. Conveniently overlooked? If a business did this they would never get away with it. The kicker is that Bush has promised to pay China back with mostly oil. Things that make you go HMMMM........
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Old 10-27-2006, 05:38 PM   #43 (permalink)
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Yeah, but how many of you guys ever mention the national debt of $8,559,074,198,219?
The National Debt has continued to increase an average of
$1.60 billion per day since September 30, 2005! All the rest of the figures pale in comparison. Conveniently overlooked? If a business did this they would never get away with it. The kicker is that Bush has promised to pay China back with mostly oil. Things that make you go HMMMM........
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I agree that the national debt is troublesome. I believe I have made statements to that end before. However, our unemployment level is more than reasonable.
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Old 10-28-2006, 01:42 AM   #44 (permalink)
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The national debt is a result of monetary policy. For every dollar bill in your wallet, whether it be a 1, 5, 10 or 20, you are contributing to the national debt. That's right folks. Because we have a fiat system of money, our currency is not backed by a real commodity. At one time money is secured with gold or silver, hence the gold or silver certificates that were once used as money. For every dollar in your wallet, the government had an dollars worth of gold or silver.

Is the debt troublesome, without a doubt. We need to begin paying back some of the amounts that are owed. This is especially true during peacetime.

Despite a so-called budget surplus under President Clinton, the national debt still rose 1.2 trillion dollars. The national debt has increased each and every year since the end of the Eisenhauer administartion. The only time democrats complain about it, is when every other economic indicator is pointing upward, they still have to find something to complain about.

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Basicly we pay one year's debts off with the next years bonds to maintain a stable economy. Will this continue?
Treasury Bond Investors See Chances for Lower Rates Disappear - October 16, 2006 - The New York Sun
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I find it very interesting that when the economy is strong and growing, the Bush-haters HAVE to come up with something.

It's the DEBT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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If you buy US bonds, or if your mutual fund (or retirement fund) buys US bonds, aren't you gaining from the interest paid?
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I find it very interesting that when the economy is strong and growing, the Bush-haters HAVE to come up with something.

It's the DEBT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I find it very interesting that when anyone points out anything that doesn't back Bush that the Bush-lovers HAVE to come up with something. It was announced yesterday that the economy's growth has now been down graded to 1.3%. Acorrding to the experts this is no longer keeping up with the rest of the numbers.
I remember you making fun of my claim that the ecomomy would change for the worse, soon. Opps. Just admit the truth hurts.
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Unemployment is under 5% which according to economists is considered full employment. Keep searching for something to blame on Bush. It's getting hareder for you guys every day. That's why all you can do is yell Iraq.
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Unemployment is under 5% which according to economists is considered full employment. Keep searching for something to blame on Bush. It's getting hareder for you guys every day. That's why all you can do is yell Iraq.
Evidently you haven't read a thing I said, in past posts, on this thread, concerning unemployment.
Getting harder my ass. Only in your fantasy world. I've been in three states inthe last week and everywhere I go the Republican's campaign signs don't even have the word Republican on them. Even they know Bush is screwing up. We'll see how the rest of the country feels about it on Nov. 7th. I'm going to laugh when you blame the economy's upcoming failure on the Democrats.
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