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Capital Punishment Debate and defend your political beliefs on whether or not capital punishment is morally right.

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Old 04-20-2006, 09:28 AM   #61 (permalink)
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Do you guys have any info on this guys case. I wonder what is going on is he senteced yet.
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Old 04-25-2006, 11:18 PM   #62 (permalink)
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I agree 100%... the death penalty should be allowed to rid this world of people like Fawley. We should be able to execute him one a day for every minute he hurt Taylor Behl. One day things will change and people like Fawley will be put to death with little argument.
Old 04-26-2006, 09:53 AM   #63 (permalink)
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Amen to that, they should be put to death for killing innocent people. Especially this guy, a kid he killed a kid, she had her whole life ahead of her and he just decided to take it. The state should take his.

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Old 04-26-2006, 03:40 PM   #64 (permalink)
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I agree 100%... the death penalty should be allowed to rid this world of people like Fawley. We should be able to execute him one a day for every minute he hurt Taylor Behl. One day things will change and people like Fawley will be put to death with little argument.
Another amen to that!
Old 06-25-2006, 12:56 PM   #65 (permalink)
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Agreed.

Although I thought you Christians liked to preserve life???

A true Christian prefers that our government and authority obey God. What is God's way? "He that smiteth a man, so that he die, shall be surely put to death." Ex 21:12 Also, Gen 9:6.
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It is a direct contridiction to be pro-life in the case of abortion and for the death penalty. Or are we going to start judging the worth of souls??? I didn't think so...
How do you see a contradiction? There is none. Perhaps in your mind, but no.

Killing an innocent unborn baby who has hurt no one, committed no heinous crime is far worse than killing someone who has taken the life of another most often an innocent victim who was brutally murdered with mercy.

Unborn baby = innocent
Heinous killers = undeserving of life

If you'd have read some of these cases to see how these monsters had absolutely no compassion or mercy for their victims, you might change your mind.


As for judging of souls, we don't. We leave that to God to decide whether they receive everlasting life in His kingdom or if they deserve eternal damnation. But while we're on this earth, we obey His laws pertaining to murder and wish those in authority would do the same.
Old 06-25-2006, 01:48 PM   #67 (permalink)
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One problem with CP is that it would allow an unjust government to end people that it doesn't agree with.
Not yet it wouldn't. We'll deal with your speculation when it's no longer a speculation.

Quit making excuses. If someone takes another's life, his life shall be forfeited. PERIOD.
Old 06-25-2006, 02:00 PM   #68 (permalink)
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because christians are only supposed to care if a soul is envolved or not. not the purity of that soul... judging that would not be christian.

I'm sorry, but your view of Christianity is warped. The Bible does not say that we are not to judge. We CAN judge. We just need to be sure the beam is out of our eye so that we can SEE to remove the mote in our brother's. Mt 7:5 -
Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.

If we as a society would obey God, we would remove those who prey on the innocent and let God deal with their souls. The soul of a murderer is more his (the guilty's) responsibility than ours, after all. If a murderer thought about obeying God, he would not have murdered, would he? So, since he did, you think someone else should be responsible for his soul? No one is responsible for my actions or my soul. Only me.

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Old 06-25-2006, 02:06 PM   #69 (permalink)
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But that is what I am saying. It doesn't seem like a Christian value "an eye for an eye". That is for God to judge, isn't it.
How does it not "seem like a Christian"? God expects us to carry out His will on earth.

What is your religion, if I may ask?
Old 06-25-2006, 02:21 PM   #70 (permalink)
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Yeah...that's exactly it...isn't it? Morality in America....because we all know that morality in America triumphs over evil always. That's why we have a President lying to his citizens about reasons to go to war, that's why we have politicians appearing in front of grand juries, that's why we have multi-billion dollar coporations going down the shitter because of corruption....what the fuck America are you talkin' about Ridin?
Let's not derail the debate. We're not discussing lying presidents. We're discussing capital punishment.

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But, if you knew what you were talking about, you would know that above all - money rules everything in America. If you knew that, then you would know that appealing to my sympathy and my fear are fallicious arguments intended to dodge the real issues.
This is what I thought you were doing.

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For me, the first real issue is whether it is moral to kill a man.
My answer is No, simply because I believe killing is wrong and that no matter what someone has done to me, I don't think that means they should die.
So, if someone murders your mother, sister, brother or father, how much is their life worth to you? Nothing?
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Am I saying I could never be caught up in the moment? No, I'm not saying that-- I don't think killing people for anything is very worthwhile. The 10 Commandments forbids killing, yet millions of Christians have decided to dodge that issue with their end-all saying "eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth."
The sixth commandment says "thou shalt not murder." Anyone who murders is to be put to death.

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This makes up one of many Christian-made eexcuses for Christian-made rules. Where's your fucking sense of hypocrisy?
No hypocrisy, just misunderstanding on your part as to what the Bible really says.

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The other issue, then, is if it is moral to kill a man, is it really the wisest course of action when it would COST LESS to let them suffer by themselves in a small dark cell for the rest of their lives?
Actually, it's not about them. It's about serving JUSTICE to the injured.
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Considering how money is important for everyone, and more money equals more opportunity whether you like it or not....not to mention we still have homeless and starving people, including children. There are multitudes of causes that need money right now, yet you still feel the need to spend all of this extra money, just to kill a prisoner who's real life is effectively over and then on top of all of that say that money does not matter in this issue.
If done the right way (the way God commands us to do it), it would not cost more. In fact, we wouldn't even have prisons. How much would that save the American public? not to mention the fact that crime would be almost non-existent. (Oh, dear!! and what would happen to the American "justice" system, then?!)

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