tadpole256

You have made some good points. But I still feel the death penalty is a valuable tool, I think we just need to actually go through with the administration of the death a little quicker. I just don't see the advantage of life in prison without the possibility of parole over the death penalty...

thenewnoise

Here are two advantages.

1. You ensure that innocent people don't get killed.

2. You free up the courts to deal with other cases.

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While they pick which countries to invade
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tadpole256

And you get to flip the bill to keep these people alive....


How would you feel about at least putting them to hard labor? With the emphasis on HARD...

thenewnoise

First, we would be paying less to keep them aliv (see previously cited articles). Second, protecting innocent people would be worth some extra cost anyways. Finally about hard labor... depending on exactly what was meant, I would be fine with that. But I suspect that if the convicts were in the general population rather than death row they would be getting plenty of hard labor from the other inmates, if you know what I mean...

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When the president talks to God
Do they drink near beer and go play golf
While they pick which countries to invade
Which Muslim souls still can be saved?
I guess god just calls a spade a spade
When the president talks to God

Nebraskaboy

The prisions are already getting very over crowded, which is why so MANY new prisions are going up. So these new prisions along with more guards is going to hit our tax dollars pretty hard also right? So money wise, this is also a argument for capital punishment but I could be completely wrong. I just want to see your views on this.

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thenewnoise

1. Most of those sentenced to death die of old age, not the death penalty. That means there is not additional cost to keep them alive, you are paying for food, clothes (etc...) for the same amount of time- the rest of their lives.

2. Generally it is the poor who get the death penalty. They cannot afford an attorney, so the tax payers pay the attorney costs.

3. Capital cases usually have 4x more pretrial motion, this means about 4x the attorney fees and also more court fees.

4. Death row inmates are kept separately from other inmates, this is less space efficient that sharing cells. Thus, it would actually help the overcrowded jails to just issue life sentences.

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When the president talks to God
Do they drink near beer and go play golf
While they pick which countries to invade
Which Muslim souls still can be saved?
I guess god just calls a spade a spade
When the president talks to God

prescott911

those must have been the dumbasses during the crusades. i bet they were all catholics during the crusades. im not sure can someone get me up to speed on that??

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Nebraskaboy

Why does it take so long for their death sentence?

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Godbless, Tadpole.

“I am a Republican. I\'m loyal to the party of Abraham Lincoln and Theodore Roosevelt. And I believe that my party, in some ways, has strayed from those principles, particularly on the issue of fiscal discipline.”

-John McCain

"Senator, when you took your oath of office, you placed your hand on the Bible and swore to uphold the Constitution.
You did not place your hand on the Constitution and swear to uphold the Bible."

-Jamie Raskin

thenewnoise

It takes so long because they have constitutional rights to appeal. Getting someone executed is a very long legal process. Working in a law firm I can tell you that some civil cases will require what would amount 15-20+ large trash bags of paper work. That is just one case, with no appeals. Capital cases average 4x the paperwork than a non capital case. Imagine writing 60-80+ large trash bags worth of documents... that alone could take twenty years! I think that the slow process has to be protected. Even with the current system there are reports of innocent people being found guilty and sentenced to death. If the time between conviction and execution were any shorter, more innocent people would be killed.

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When the president talks to God
Do they drink near beer and go play golf
While they pick which countries to invade
Which Muslim souls still can be saved?
I guess god just calls a spade a spade
When the president talks to God

tadpole256

I saw your other posts. I just don't buy it. And honestly... I don't think it'd be worth the extra costs...