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Capital Punishment Debate and defend your political beliefs on whether or not capital punishment is morally right.

View Poll Results: For Capital Punishment or Against it?
For Capital Punishment 41 57.75%
Against Capital Punishment 25 35.21%
Undecided 5 7.04%
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Old 03-31-2005, 08:58 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Being in the military I really can't go against capital punishment, since we don't need too much of an excuse to lite someone up, without a trial, without prison. I think prison should be like that shithole in AZ where they have a tent city, chain gangs, and have to wear pink boxers.
So what is it you do in the military, exactly? (This isn't meant mockingly or anything).

---Now for the good part---

I really don't like the idea of a world with prisons and official penalties (or any government over a population for that matter), but living in the United States at this point in time- I say go for it, blow the sucker out. Hell, I'd just ask for capital punishment if I knew I was guilty; better than rotting in jail forever. It's not my tax money!

But that's just my little superficial philosophy.
Sounds good we will make every crime punishable by death. You get pulled over for speeding death by firing squad. sounds good to me.
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Old 04-01-2005, 06:17 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Being in the military I really can't go against capital punishment, since we don't need too much of an excuse to lite someone up, without a trial, without prison. I think prison should be like that shithole in AZ where they have a tent city, chain gangs, and have to wear pink boxers.
So what is it you do in the military, exactly? (This isn't meant mockingly or anything).

---Now for the good part---

I really don't like the idea of a world with prisons and official penalties (or any government over a population for that matter), but living in the United States at this point in time- I say go for it, blow the sucker out. Hell, I'd just ask for capital punishment if I knew I was guilty; better than rotting in jail forever. It's not my tax money!

But that's just my little superficial philosophy.
If we do not have penalties or prisons,what do we do with the criminals?Slap them on the wrist,say bad boy(or girl)and send them back to do their crime again?Crime and punishment is not just the title of a book.It is a fact in society today and we need them topunish(oops i mean rehabilitate)criminals.If you have a better idea,I would like to hear it.
Old 04-05-2005, 10:48 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Being in the military I really can't go against capital punishment, since we don't need too much of an excuse to lite someone up, without a trial, without prison. I think prison should be like that shithole in AZ where they have a tent city, chain gangs, and have to wear pink boxers.
So what is it you do in the military, exactly? (This isn't meant mockingly or anything).

---Now for the good part---

I really don't like the idea of a world with prisons and official penalties (or any government over a population for that matter), but living in the United States at this point in time- I say go for it, blow the sucker out. Hell, I'd just ask for capital punishment if I knew I was guilty; better than rotting in jail forever. It's not my tax money!

But that's just my little superficial philosophy.
If we do not have penalties or prisons,what do we do with the criminals?Slap them on the wrist,say bad boy(or girl)and send them back to do their crime again?Crime and punishment is not just the title of a book.It is a fact in society today and we need them topunish(oops i mean rehabilitate)criminals.If you have a better idea,I would like to hear it.
As an anarchist, I believe in retribution in the form of personal revenge, or no retribution at all (preferable none at all- that tends to start feuds). This is just my ideal, I know very well that this is extremely unrealistic when it comes to crime in the present.

So what do "we" do about it? We stay well-protected and we don't give anyone a reason to hurt us. Sounds ridiculous to some people; makes perfect sense to primitivists.
Old 04-06-2005, 05:54 AM   #24 (permalink)
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Being in the military I really can't go against capital punishment, since we don't need too much of an excuse to lite someone up, without a trial, without prison. I think prison should be like that shithole in AZ where they have a tent city, chain gangs, and have to wear pink boxers.
So what is it you do in the military, exactly? (This isn't meant mockingly or anything).

---Now for the good part---

I really don't like the idea of a world with prisons and official penalties (or any government over a population for that matter), but living in the United States at this point in time- I say go for it, blow the sucker out. Hell, I'd just ask for capital punishment if I knew I was guilty; better than rotting in jail forever. It's not my tax money!

But that's just my little superficial philosophy.
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Old 05-05-2005, 09:51 AM   #25 (permalink)
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I think if the crime is one that warrants capital punishment, as determined by a jury of the defendents peers, than the defendent should be put to death expeditiously. Don't waste my tax dollars keeping these scumbags alive. I am in the U.S. Navy, and prisinors in the U.S. live in substantially better conditions than we do aboard ship. I have personally seen our ship receive beef that was stamped "Reject by the Mississippi Prison System". And that's a damn shame. The hard working, hard fighting men defending this country should not be given worse condiditons than criminals.
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Once again, you do not listen to what I am saying. There are possibilities that innocents are killed each year. This system should not be up if this is happening.
A doctor will accidentally kill an innocent person this year by making a mistake, better not go to the doctor. Stay away from the medical system...

The problem with the death penalty is that it is no longer a deterent. Under the auspices of the 8th amendment we have made it neat and clean. The prisoner is taken into a sterile room, an IV is inserted, and then drugs are administered that first put the prisoner to sleep and then that stop their heart and stop their breathing.

For the death penalty to be a deterent it needs to be cruel. How many people do you think had a second thought about stealing a horse after seeing that horse thief hung last week? Lethal injection needs to go, it is to humane. Return to the days of hanging, electrocution, or firing squad. Those would be a deterent.

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Once again, you do not listen to what I am saying. There are possibilities that innocents are killed each year. This system should not be up if this is happening.
A doctor will accidentally kill an innocent person this year by making a mistake, better not go to the doctor. Stay away from the medical system...

The problem with the death penalty is that it is no longer a deterent. Under the auspices of the 8th amendment we have made it neat and clean. The prisoner is taken into a sterile room, an IV is inserted, and then drugs are administered that first put the prisoner to sleep and then that stop their heart and stop their breathing.

For the death penalty to be a deterent it needs to be cruel. How many people do you think had a second thought about stealing a horse after seeing that horse thief hung last week? Lethal injection needs to go, it is to humane. Return to the days of hanging, electrocution, or firing squad. Those would be a deterent.

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Not only do I agree with that, but I think it should be publically available to be seen on T.V.

Why should a criminal be given the right to slip peacefully into the darkness? We should make hell look desirable compared to what we do to murderers, rapists, child molestors, and the like.
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Capital Punishment
In my opinion capital punishment is good. If someone has murdered people or carried out a crime worthy of the death penalty they do not deserve to live. It is not an act of revenge, it is punishment...hents the name capital Punishment. It is very costly to allow these criminals to live. We are stuck paying for their food, when we could just kill them. Some people believe that killing scumbags on death row is more expensive then keeping them alive. This is wrong. People only compare the price of the leathel injection to one year of keeping criminals alive. In that comparison the leathel injection is more costly. But what about the rest of the criminals life? These comparisons are misleading. We need to examine not one year, but the whole criminals life. In this comparison leathel injection is less expensive. It is more expensive to keep them alive for life and this cost is only going to grow higher as lifespans increase.

As far as morals go, the scumbags on death row did something wrong and they deserve death. The majority of people who aren't for capital punishment are for abortion. And what is funny to me is that they are ok with killing an innocent baby but they aren't ok with killing a convicted murderer. Whats wrong with that picture? There is something wrong with their so called morals.

I have a solution that will please a majority of people. Animal rights activists are always complaining about cruel animal testing. My solution, instead of testing on innocent animals, do the testing on the death row criminals. This may be cruel but like sgtdmski wrote: "
For the death penalty to be a deterent it needs to be cruel. How many people do you think had a second thought about stealing a horse after seeing that horse thief hung last week?"
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In my opinion capital punishment is good. If someone has murdered people or carried out a crime worthy of the death penalty they do not deserve to live. It is not an act of revenge, it is punishment...hents the name capital Punishment. It is very costly to allow these criminals to live. We are stuck paying for their food, when we could just kill them. Some people believe that killing scumbags on death row is more expensive then keeping them alive. This is wrong. People only compare the price of the leathel injection to one year of keeping criminals alive. In that comparison the leathel injection is more costly. But what about the rest of the criminals life? These comparisons are misleading. We need to examine not one year, but the whole criminals life. In this comparison leathel injection is less expensive. It is more expensive to keep them alive for life and this cost is only going to grow higher as lifespans increase.

As far as morals go, the scumbags on death row did something wrong and they deserve death. The majority of people who aren't for capital punishment are for abortion. And what is funny to me is that they are ok with killing an innocent baby but they aren't ok with killing a convicted murderer. Whats wrong with that picture? There is something wrong with their so called morals.

I have a solution that will please a majority of people. Animal rights activists are always complaining about cruel animal testing. My solution, instead of testing on innocent animals, do the testing on the death row criminals. This may be cruel but like sgtdmski wrote: "
For the death penalty to be a deterent it needs to be cruel. How many people do you think had a second thought about stealing a horse after seeing that horse thief hung last week?"

Before I jump in, let me say this--I am indeed in favor of capital punishment, but I agree that today's methods don't do a number on the people with murder, rape, etc. on their minds. Personal revenge is how killers and rapists should be dealt with; that's retribution, man.

People who are against capital punishment don't necessarily see why an unwanted, barely-developed human fetus is so unbelievably important in peoples' eyes but the government is so willing to spend a ridiculous amount of money (our tax dollars) on the execution of a fully-developed human being.

I think they're both disgusting ways of getting rid of unwanted people (or protopeople). Let the family decide what to do with the fetus/murderer, it shouldn't be any of the government's business.
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Old 06-26-2005, 05:55 PM   #30 (permalink)
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Not only am I for capital punishment, I think we ought to have good old fashioned Hangings, none of this kinder gentler injection nonsense. If we started killing more of these criminals, than all these little ghetto rats might settle down and maybe even get some real jobs.
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