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Capital Punishment Debate and defend your political beliefs on whether or not capital punishment is morally right.

View Poll Results: For Capital Punishment or Against it?
For Capital Punishment 41 57.75%
Against Capital Punishment 25 35.21%
Undecided 5 7.04%
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Old 06-27-2005, 05:18 PM   #41 (permalink)
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The moment one person is wrongfully killed by our justice system, the system needs to be radically altered. And many people have been wrongfully killed.
I say let the victim's family decide what to do with murderers, rapists, etc. If there happens to be more than one victim, let each family decide together what they want to happen. If the victim has no family, look for close friends. If they can't contact any close friends, try reform the offender; make 'em read some Kropotkin.

If the offender needs to be hunted down, offer assistance to the family in tracking him down, then follow the regular procedure.

Encourage the family to use their logic and be rational.

That's my ideal justice system for my community. Of course it's flawed!
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Old 07-16-2005, 05:02 AM   #42 (permalink)
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Re: For Capital Punishment or Against it?
I am for capital punishment, i guess it depends what the crime was whether or not they should do time or be put on death row. i live in a small town and they just built a new jail next to our fair grounds(not a choice place to put it)because the other jail is getting over crowded, no matter where you go or where you're sent there's going to be over crowding. i guess my point is that if you don't punish the murderers then the ones that suffer is the tax payers because the jails and prisons that have to be built due to over crowding and who wants to be bunked with someone who killed 2 people!
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Good point!
Old 07-16-2005, 01:16 PM   #44 (permalink)
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I am for capital punishment, i guess it depends what the crime was whether or not they should do time or be put on death row. i live in a small town and they just built a new jail next to our fair grounds(not a choice place to put it)because the other jail is getting over crowded, no matter where you go or where you're sent there's going to be over crowding. i guess my point is that if you don't punish the murderers then the ones that suffer is the tax payers because the jails and prisons that have to be built due to over crowding and who wants to be bunked with someone who killed 2 people!
Yes, that was a very good point. Well... Until we get a liberal that tells us how it cost more money to execute them than to harbor them.... It's asinine.
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Old 07-16-2005, 03:52 PM   #45 (permalink)
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So you think there should be an all-around ban on abortion but you support execution? That does sound very pro-life to me. Criminals who are sentenced to death don't hit the chamber the next day. Often times it takes years even decades. These never-ending retrials and appeals is what is costing the taxpayers money. And it does cost a lot of money for an execution as well. This year a death row serial killer, Michael Ross, was executed on May 13. He was originally scheduled to be executed on January 26th, 2005. He dropped his appeals before his execution. His lawyers speculated he did this because "there is evidence that he may have
been driven to seek his own execution as a symptom of the psychological impact of being subjected to the harshness of death row conditions for years." He was on death row for 17 years.
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Yeah, you'd think that with all these appeals and decades of trials that they would get it right. They have plenty of chances. Yet, innoncent people have still been killed, which only further proves the mess of this system.
I think innocent is too strong of a word.
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The moment one person is wrongfully killed by our justice system, the system needs to be radically altered. And many people have been wrongfully killed.
Should we radically alter the traffic system the moment one person is wrongfully killed in a traffic accident?

The traffic system is s system intended to provide a means of transportation. The justice system, more specifically the institution of capital punishment, is a system the is, in part, set up to kill people who commit terrible crimes. The traffic system does not intentionally kill anyone. The death peanlty does.
Ok, cool, great, thanks for the clarification there good buddy...

What's your point?
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Re: For Capital Punishment or Against it?
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I am for capital punishment, i guess it depends what the crime was whether or not they should do time or be put on death row. i live in a small town and they just built a new jail next to our fair grounds(not a choice place to put it)because the other jail is getting over crowded, no matter where you go or where you're sent there's going to be over crowding. i guess my point is that if you don't punish the murderers then the ones that suffer is the tax payers because the jails and prisons that have to be built due to over crowding and who wants to be bunked with someone who killed 2 people!

Exactly, furthermore what kind of example are we setting for criminals when we sentence people to death, and then don't kill them?

My point is this, some people can be reformed, and they should be. Others can not. If we are going to sentence someone to life in prison without the possibility of parole, why not just kill them?

If you EAT your victims, you are beyond reform, and should be killed. If you intentionally do serious harm to a child (e.g.:rape, maime), you should die. In my opinion.
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So you think there should be an all-around ban on abortion but you support execution? That does sound very pro-life to me. Criminals who are sentenced to death don't hit the chamber the next day. Often times it takes years even decades. These never-ending retrials and appeals is what is costing the taxpayers money. And it does cost a lot of money for an execution as well. This year a death row serial killer, Michael Ross, was executed on May 13. He was originally scheduled to be executed on January 26th, 2005. He dropped his appeals before his execution. His lawyers speculated he did this because "there is evidence that he may have
been driven to seek his own execution as a symptom of the psychological impact of being subjected to the harshness of death row conditions for years." He was on death row for 17 years.
Exactly, so kill'm quick and be done with it. And for the record, I am PRO abortion.
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But you can't kill them quick because if you execute a criminal and then it later surfaces, in some way, that he was innocent of the crime (which has happened) the backlash from the public and media is crazy. So then once again we're stuck with a longer, drawn out system. That's why I support getting rid of the whole damn thing.

And for the record, I believe that many of these criminal do not deserve to live. I still think a life time sentence in solitary confinement is a worse punishment. My point is the system, either the quick way or the slow way, is a mess.
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