Defending the Truth

Yeah, Gacy was executed in 1994 by lethal injection.

Charles Manson was sparred by the death penalty because congress and/or the senate abolished it in the 1970's. And now there may be more bodies lying near the ranch where he was captured for the last time.

It was actually the Supreme Court, but I forgive you....

Thanks for straightening me out, Knotty. I got a buzzjob on Saturday, and I think I'm in the sun too long, even if I am indoors.

Capital punishment is simply the method whereby society sweeps the problems of it's own making under the carpet.

People commit crimes because of the way society is run, rather than in spite of the way society is run. By that I mean society, whether US or European or anywhere else, is rotten to the core. Those in power want to stay in power and imprisonment and/or capital punishment for those who break their rules is one of the means by which the powerful maintain their position.

Under those circumstances, how can one possibly support capital punishment?

Can't vote, too narrow on why or what falls under it!

"We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men": George Orwell
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"The nationalist not only does not disapprove of atrocities committed by his own side, but he has a remarkable capacity for not even hearing about them": George Orwell
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"If a thief breaks into my house, burns and destroys my property, and kills or threatens to kill me, or those that are in it, and to "bind me in all cases whatsoever" to his absolute will, am I to suffer it?" : The American Crisis by Thomas Paine. The Avalon Project : American Crisis

Bush challenges hundreds of laws President cites powers of his office
Bush challenges hundreds of laws - The Boston Globe

The REAL John McCain: Less Jobs, More Wars.

US CODE: Title 18,2441. War crimes. War Crimes Act of 1996

(a) Offense.— Whoever, whether inside or outside the United States, commits a war crime, in any of the circumstances described in subsection (b), shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for life or any term of years, or both, and if death results to the victim, shall also be subject to the penalty of death.
(b) Circumstances.— The circumstances referred to in subsection (a) are that the person committing such war crime or the victim of such war crime is a member of the Armed Forces of the United States or a national of the United States (as defined in section 101 of the Immigration and Nationality Act).
(c) Definition.— As used in this section the term “war crime” means any conduct—
(1) defined as a grave breach in any of the international conventions signed at Geneva 12 August 1949, or any protocol to such convention to which the United States is a party;
(2) prohibited by Article 23, 25, 27, or 28 of the Annex to the Hague Convention IV, Respecting the Laws and Customs of War on Land, signed 18 October 1907;
(3) which constitutes a violation of common Article 3 of the international conventions signed at Geneva, 12 August 1949, or any protocol to such convention to which the United States is a party and which deals with non-international armed conflict; or
(4) of a person who, in relation to an armed conflict and contrary to the provisions of the Protocol on Prohibitions or Restrictions on the Use of Mines, Booby-Traps and Other Devices as amended at Geneva on 3 May 1996 (Protocol II as amended on 3 May 1996), when the United States is a party to such Protocol, willfully kills or causes serious injury to civilians.
http://uscode.house.gov/download/pls/18C118.txt

This is a very long thread and I'll admit I haven't read beyond post 1 because I'm betting no one thinks the way I think on the issue.

Here's my position on the death penalty: It's too damned easy and it costs too damned much!

All violators of law should be placed in different categories and punished for violating the other lawful citizens expected norm. This should be done fairly and consistently with no cost to law abiding citizens.

Felons, now in death penalty/life sentences should lose all rights as citizens and be placed in a commune that is self supporting. A place like the Alaska National Wildlife Reserve isolated from law abiding citizens. The commune would be fenced, triple fenced with land mines and protective air space equal to that of Washington DC. Inside of the commune would be barns, animals, tools, seeds and a source of clean water similar to a Quaker lifestyle in PA minus houses. Inmates would be self sustained by their labor and produce all items consumed.

Once placed in the commune they would be free within the commune and be self reliant requiring cooperation between inmates or death from internal law established by inmates. Those requiring medical/dental care would exit the facility through the only entrance/exit tunnel nude to be treated and returned.