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Old 08-06-2007, 12:25 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Understood. But war and capital punishment are two completely opposite topics.

*Not if you are the President sending troops to kill people
Kill people who have committed acts of terrorism (those who want Americans dead)

*Not if you are a soldier in a declared war
The soldier is defending their Country. Again, I would keep war and capital punishment separate.

*Not if you are the governer executing a prisoner
Someone has to do it. Whomever it is has no right to life, so I feel it is right in taking it away.

Wait just a minute... killing is killing. Is it not?
Who the heck are you or any government to decide what kind of killing is kosher?
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Old 08-15-2007, 10:33 AM   #32 (permalink)
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A huge majority of citizens in the UK are for Capital punnishment, but MP's in the House of Commons, with large majorities dismiss it as unsuitable.

Personally, I think we need it, not for cases of circumstantial evidence, but for admissions of guilt or cast iron proof of guilt.

I do think it is a deterrant myself.
Old 08-17-2007, 03:37 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Wait just a minute... killing is killing. Is it not?
Who the heck are you or any government to decide what kind of killing is kosher?
Well, I for one am glad somebody decided killing German military personell was "kosher" during WWII.
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Old 08-17-2007, 03:47 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Well, I for one am glad somebody decided killing German military personell was "kosher" during WWII.
Kosher...Teehee

I'm with RidingHighSpeeds on this one. When there is irrefutable evidence of aggravated malice murder there should be a death penalty. But only if there is no doubt whatsoever that the person did the crime.
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Yeah, that's the kicker... no doubt at all they were the one.
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Yeah, that's the kicker... no doubt at all they were the one.
Hmm. OK, this idea has merit.
But how would we establish "no doubt at all?"

A signed confession? Those can be coerced.

DNA evidence? If there is none, does that automatically exempt the guy from the death penalty, and he gets life in prison instead as the maximum penalty?
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A huge majority of citizens in the UK are for Capital punnishment, but MP's in the House of Commons, with large majorities dismiss it as unsuitable.

Personally, I think we need it, not for cases of circumstantial evidence, but for admissions of guilt or cast iron proof of guilt.

I do think it is a deterrant myself.
Support for the death penalty in the UK is now below 50%:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...ixnewstop.html

I don't call that a "huge majority".
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Hmm. OK, this idea has merit.
But how would we establish "no doubt at all?"

A signed confession? Those can be coerced.

DNA evidence? If there is none, does that automatically exempt the guy from the death penalty, and he gets life in prison instead as the maximum penalty?
Well, in the case of John Wayne Gacy, where they found 25 bodies buried under his house, or Jeffrey Dahmer where they found body parts scattered around his apartment, I would think there would be 'no doubt at all'.
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Hmm. OK, this idea has merit.
But how would we establish "no doubt at all?"

A signed confession? Those can be coerced.

DNA evidence? If there is none, does that automatically exempt the guy from the death penalty, and he gets life in prison instead as the maximum penalty?

Several eyewitnesses.

There was a case in a town I used to live in where the perpetrator shotgunned the victim in front of dozens of people. And when one man who had witnessed the shooting became enranged and tried running the shooter over, the perpetrator fired a round into his windshield too.

That was a pretty clear-cut case. Even so, the victim's family asked that the prosecution not pursue the death penalty.

Not so much out of mercy, but rather so that the killer would have to rot in prison and be reminded every day about what he had done. At least that's what the victim's father said during the sentencing hearing.
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Understood. But war and capital punishment are two completely opposite topics.

*Not if you are the President sending troops to kill people
Kill people who have committed acts of terrorism (those who want Americans dead)

*Not if you are a soldier in a declared war
The soldier is defending their Country. Again, I would keep war and capital punishment separate.

*Not if you are the governer executing a prisoner
Someone has to do it. Whomever it is has no right to life, so I feel it is right in taking it away.
What about in circumstances of war crimes where the killing of innocent civilians is involved?
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