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Old 11-03-2006, 07:56 PM   #131 (permalink)
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Old 11-03-2006, 08:29 PM   #132 (permalink)
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Only a liberal would find it immoral to kill a killer.

Kill 'em. Who cares what the left has to say on this issue.
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Old 11-03-2006, 08:56 PM   #133 (permalink)
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Old 11-04-2006, 07:43 AM   #134 (permalink)
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Only a liberal would find it immoral to kill a killer.

Kill 'em. Who cares what the left has to say on this issue.
I think one of the main arguments against the death penalty is that it is not good enough anyway. Here is an example (Nice. Very Nice...).

The death penalty isn't a good deterrent, nor is it good retibution in my opinion. Many people would rather be executed than have the rest of their lives spent away in a prison cell or solitary confinement.
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I think one of the main arguments against the death penalty is that it is not good enough anyway. Here is an example (Nice. Very Nice...).

The death penalty isn't a good deterrent, nor is it good retibution in my opinion. Many people would rather be executed than have the rest of their lives spent away in a prison cell or solitary confinement.
Then let's make sure they're locked away - for the rest of their lives - with NO chance of release or parole.
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The Death Penalty does indeed stop the criminal sentenced to it from committing yet another crime, but is it truly justice?

If one makes a hole in the ground, making another hole does not make level anything, does it?

I really have to wonder what harm it does to the one who has to administer the death penalty to another. Perhaps that loss of sensitivity to life must be weighed very soberly.
Old 12-07-2006, 05:23 PM   #137 (permalink)
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The Death Penalty does indeed stop the criminal sentenced to it from committing yet another crime, but is it truly justice?

If one makes a hole in the ground, making another hole does not make level anything, does it?

I really have to wonder what harm it does to the one who has to administer the death penalty to another. Perhaps that loss of sensitivity to life must be weighed very soberly.
I wonder if the person who has to sentence a person to death, who so called "pulls the plug" was given that particular position to administer the death penalty, or has chosen to do that for a living.
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Yes, I wonder that too RidinHigh...

How would I react, if one of my children would say, "Mama, when I grow up, I want to execute criminals!"

I cannot say that I ever even heard of a child saying that when they grow up they want to be a corrections officer/ prison guard, let alone, "I want to perform executions for the State, Mommy!"

At any rate, I do believe that people can get de-sensitized to the value of life when called upon to end it. In fact, it is a means of survival of the "administrator of the end" and in so doing, something of their own life is lost too.

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That is very bullheaded. The judge was very insightful and was proving the point that jail time does NOT solve the problem in these cases. At all... doesn't matter how long the sentence is. Doesn't matter period.

The only thing that works is what they don't get BECAUSE OF FOLKS LIKE YOU.
Your right jail time does not solve the problem. Hell psychological experts have already determined that a person who is a pedophile will always be one, so your right no amount of jail time will cure this individual. If the judge was being insightful as you say he would have either sentenced the individual to life, castration or death. But he didn't instead 4 months for abusing a young girl who will now have to live with this trauma for the rest of her life. Had she been my daughter I would have saved the Courts all the time and trouble of sentencing.

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Its just not true that we would have to restructure our society(or at least in not such a drastic unthinkable, or impossible way). As it is we are the ONLY westernized country that still has capital punishment. 12 States officially do not employ capital punishment, and even more have it as a legal punishment but have not used it. Also the death penalty was federally illegal in US befor 1979 for some time.

In fact even though a majority of people support capital punishment in some cases, it would be completely ideologically and morally natural for the US to outlaw the death penalty, as far a societal beliefs go. We are primarily a christian society, and all christian religion which subscribe to the new testement as an institution DOES NOT support the death penalty. The catholic religion only does so if there is no possible alternative to dealing with the criminal in such a way that is safe for society(which would never be the case unless by some rare chance someone can come up with a complex enough research study to take in all factors to prove deterance value.)
However, Christ told his followers to render unto Ceasar the things that are Ceasars. In other words, let government do that which it must, our job is to save souls.

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