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Old 11-05-2007, 11:15 AM   #1 (permalink)
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U.S. Supreme Court rules against Alabama death row inmate
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The U.S. Supreme Court ruled against a terminally ill death row inmate Monday, declaring that he missed a deadline for challenging one of his convictions.

But the ruling that went against Daniel Lee Siebert is not expected to result in any immediate execution date for the killing of a Talladega woman in 1986. Siebert earlier had an Oct. 25 execution date blocked by a federal appeals court in a separate capital murder case for killing a woman and her two young sons.

Siebert, 53, has terminal pancreatic cancer and has been fighting in court to die naturally rather than from lethal injection.

In the case the Supreme Court justices decided Monday, Alabama courts had ruled that Siebert missed a deadline for challenging his conviction at the state level in the killing of Linda Ann Jarman. Alabama officials argued the missed deadline barred Siebert from filing a petition in federal court as well.

The 11th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, however, sided with Siebert on the issue, and the state appealed to the nation's highest court.

In the unsigned decision, the Supreme Court justices ruled that because Siebert missed the state deadline "he was not entitled" to file in the federal courts either.

Justices John Paul Stevens and Ruth Bader Ginsburg dissented.

Assistant Attorney General Clay Crenshaw said it was a significant ruling for Alabama, which had drawn support in the case from 19 other states.

Siebert, however, has other court action he can take in the Jarman case and the state won't immediately seek an execution date. "The process could go on for months or years," Crenshaw said.

Siebert's attorney was out of the office Monday and did not immediately return a telephone message.

In some states, courts have no jurisdiction to consider petitions like Siebert's that are filed late. But courts in Alabama and 16 other states have discretion to hear cases filed past the deadline. The laws in eight other states do not specify whether missing the deadline is an absolute bar to going to court.

In Stevens' dissent, which Ginsburg joined, the justice said there is "an obvious distinction" between the types of time limits and that missing the Alabama state deadline should not bar a filing in the federal court system.

In the other case against Siebert, he was convicted in the strangulation deaths of Jarman's next-door neighbor, Sherri Weathers, and Weathers' two young sons on Feb. 19, 1986, the same night Jarman was killed. Weathers was a student at the Alabama School for the Deaf in Talladega and had been dating Siebert.

The 11th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals ruled that Siebert should not be executed by lethal injection until the U.S. Supreme Court rules in a Kentucky case in which that method of execution is under challenge.


U.S. Supreme Court rules against Alabama death row inmate | The Journal Gazette


I just saw this on the noon news a few minutes ago and thought it might raise some interesting discussion points regarding the death penalty.
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Old 11-05-2007, 11:21 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I just saw this on the noon news a few minutes ago and thought it might raise some interesting discussion points regarding the death penalty.
If he was convicted of killing someone back in 1986, why the fuck is he still alive? Let's ponder that one.
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One thing that disturbs me about this is that the Alabama AG's office is expending too much of its resources to fight this man's appeal.

Siebert is dying of pancreatic cancer.

Would it not be much more practical if the Governor of Alabama just commuted the sentence to life without parole? Then let nature (and karma) take its course.

Pancreatic cancer is a nasty and painful way to die. Siebert is likely to be begging for someone to put him down before it is all over.

In the meantime the AG's office has plenty of other cases that need their attention and their share of our tax dollars would be better utilized.
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If he was convicted of killing someone back in 1986, why the fuck is he still alive? Let's ponder that one.


Good question. I think the answer is that he was not convicted in 1986; that is the year the crime occurred. I don't know when his initial trial was.
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One thing that disturbs me about this is that the Alabama AG's office is expending too much of its resources to fight this man's appeal.

Siebert is dying of pancreatic cancer.

Would it not be much more practical if the Governor of Alabama just commuted the sentence to life without parole? Then let nature (and karma) take its course.

Pancreatic cancer is a nasty and painful way to die. Siebert is likely to be begging for someone to put him down before it is all over.

In the meantime the AG's office has plenty of other cases that need their attention and their share of our tax dollars would be better utilized.
You're asking for something that makes too much sense. Things just don't work that way.
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You're asking for something that makes too much sense. Things just don't work that way.

Good point. Maybe I should consider running for governor.



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The U.S. Supreme Court ruled against a terminally ill death row inmate Monday, declaring that he missed a deadline for challenging one of his convictions.

Siebert, 53, has terminal pancreatic cancer and has been fighting in court to die naturally rather than from lethal injection.
Why waste taxpayer money on a pointless execution? I say pointless, because Siebert will likely be dead before another date is set.
Why is it so important to execute a terminally ill man for a crime he commited, when that man will die of a terminal disease, anyway? I just don't see the point, to be honest.
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