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| Capital Punishment Debate and defend your political beliefs on whether or not capital punishment is morally right. |
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| The Man You Love to Hate ![]() Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Ketchikan, AK
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| Jesus also said Render unto Caesar the things which are Caesar’s, and unto God the things that are God’s Clearly showing that even recognizes the right of the state to make and enforce its own laws. While Jesus did save the adultress from her crime and challenged that he who was without sin to cast the first stone, he also told the women to go forth and sin no more. Christians who support the death penalty are rendering unto Caesar that which is Caesar's. Like it or not, our Constitution is very clear, it establishes a death penalty. But that Constituion also has protections for those who might be accused, the right to a fair trial, the right to a trial by one's peers, the right to counsel, and the right not to incriminate one's self. Abortion has none of those safeguards. dmk Conservatism, I repeat is not an ideology. It does not breed fanatics....But if you want men who seek, reasonably and prudently, to reconcile the best in wisdom of our ancestors with the change which is essential to a vigorous civil social existence, then you will do well to turn to conservative principles -Russell Kirk- | |||||||||||||||||||||
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| Partisan ![]() Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Los Angeles
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I think not. Jesus was talking specifically about taxation in your quote, why do you assume his words should reinforce the American principle of separating church and state? How convenient!!! Christians should not automatically be prepared to surrender their principles to the whims of man-made laws. | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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| Council Member ![]() Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: New Jersey
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| I agree. And it is like Jesus to forgive the sinner, but that does not mean that you let him go roam freely to kill again. They have to be incarcerated to eradicate the threat. But I don't agree with state sanctioned murder. | |||||||||||||||||||||
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| Senator ![]() Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Pensacola, FL
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| I bet your opinion would change if your whole family were killed by some serial murderer. | |||||||||||||||||||||
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| Senator ![]() Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Pensacola, FL
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I'm a bit old-fashioned in that I take full responsibility for the actions I take and the decisions I make. If somebody innocent died as a direct result of my negligence, I would take my own life. | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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| Council Member ![]() Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: New Jersey
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| No Pen, my opinion wouldn't change. I know that my loved one would not come back if their killer was killed. Emotionally, I'm sure I would be able to kill them with my own hands, but that isn't the way I believe things should be done. | |||||||||||||||||||||
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| Senator ![]() Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Pensacola, FL
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| That's not the point of killing someone who should be killed. You kill them so they don't kill more people. It really isn't that hard of a concept to grasp. | |||||||||||||||||||||
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| Council Member ![]() Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: New Jersey
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| No, I think that as long as they are locked up, then society is safe from them killing again. I don't believe in an eye for an eye. I can grasp your concept, I just don't agree with it. | |||||||||||||||||||||
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| Senator ![]() Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Pensacola, FL
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| Yeah, but then you have to feed them and house them and all they're going to do is turn into more viscious animals than they were before. What's the fucking use? You actually be doing them a favor by putting them to death - as long as you don't take twenty fucking years to do it. Face it, there are people who deserve to be killed. You don't need permission from some old man in the sky to do so. | |||||||||||||||||||||
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| Council Member ![]() Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: New Jersey
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| I don't reason that it's against God to do so. I feel that killing someone for killing someone, doesn't make sense. And with our present system, there are far too many problems to kill someone because of evidence presented, that could be corrupt or tainted. And locking them up costs less than killing them, to counter your argument, I don't care about the cost. I feel it is society's job to remove the threat, and it can do so by imprisoning them. | |||||||||||||||||||||
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