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Old 03-03-2008, 11:21 AM   #21 (permalink)
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I don't reason that it's against God to do so. I feel that killing someone for killing someone, doesn't make sense. And with our present system, there are far too many problems to kill someone because of evidence presented, that could be corrupt or tainted. And locking them up costs less than killing them, to counter your argument, I don't care about the cost. I feel it is society's job to remove the threat, and it can do so by imprisoning them.
Too bad attitudes like yours are the reason we have to spend the money on ultra-security prisons such as China Lake. In my opinion, such prisons have no reason to exist since the people sent to them should be killed instead.

If you feel so sorry for them, perhaps you should invite them into your home.
Old 03-04-2008, 06:57 AM   #22 (permalink)
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I don't feel sorry for them. And it is society's responsibility to deal with it's screw ups. I don't know why we have so many prisoners in jail in this country for drug offenses. If you got the drug offenders out of jail, you would have plenty of room and security for the violent offenders. I just don't think that killing people because we aren't dealing with the problems in our system is a good way to handle things. And the principle that we hold that killing someone is wrong, should extend to all of the people, including the government.
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I don't feel sorry for them. And it is society's responsibility to deal with it's screw ups. I don't know why we have so many prisoners in jail in this country for drug offenses. If you got the drug offenders out of jail, you would have plenty of room and security for the violent offenders. I just don't think that killing people because we aren't dealing with the problems in our system is a good way to handle things. And the principle that we hold that killing someone is wrong, should extend to all of the people, including the government.
Well, we do have some common ground here. I agree that prisons should be for the real offenders - not someone caught with drugs. However, if you kill someone out of shear cruelty and/or insanity, you have forfeited your right to live.
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I just don't think that someone has the right to enforce that. I think that killing in self defense is justified, but not as punishment.
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I just don't think that someone has the right to enforce that. I think that killing in self defense is justified, but not as punishment.

I don't believe in killing as punishment either.

I do believe that there are some people who are so dangerous that so long as they are alive there is a danger that they will kill someone else.

Why should we keep alive a person who is a danger to guards or even fellow prisoners?

Or someone who communicates with others outside of prison to conspire to murder?

I would feel no more remorse over killing such a person than I would for swatting a mosquito.
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That is why we have supermax facilities. And a guard is the sme as a cop, they know the risks of their jobs when they decide to do that job.
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That is why we have supermax facilities. And a guard is the sme as a cop, they know the risks of their jobs when they decide to do that job.
I understand that. I just don't think that it is particularly morally defensible. Why bother keeping these people alive and endangering the lives of innocent or, in the case of other prisoners, less guilty persons?

And the super facilities where they are in lock-down 23 hours a day are extremely cruel psychologically.

To me saying that incarcerating someone in supermax is morally superior to the death penalty is the same as saying it is morally superior to torture someone rather than to kill them.

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I understand that. I just don't think that it is particularly morally defensible. Why bother keeping these people alive and endangering the lives of innocent or, in the case of other prisoners, less guilty persons?

And the super facilities where they are in lock-down 23 hours a day are extremely cruel psychologically.

To me saying that incarcerating someone in supermax is morally superior to the death penalty is the same as saying it is morally superior to torture someone rather than to kill them.
Eric Rudolph, the Olympic Park bomber, spoke out about the very same subject on the supermax prison in Florence, CO. He realizes it is no paradise there.
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Again, I don't think taking some one's life is acceptable. If someone does that, they must face the punishment. That is being locked away from society for the rest of their lives. I'm not concerned with the cruel and unusual punishment aspect of the argument. And those arguments don't make it acceptable to kill someone for their crimes. I don't know if it society's job to punish the crime itself, but it is to make sure they are locked away from the rest of us. And if they are kept with lesser criminals and they harm them too, they should be locked away 23 hours a day, that is their own fault. If they are locked up with other killers, then it is survival of the fittest, and they are getting a better deal then whoever it is that they killed in the first place.
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Again, I don't think taking some one's life is acceptable. If someone does that, they must face the punishment. That is being locked away from society for the rest of their lives. I'm not concerned with the cruel and unusual punishment aspect of the argument. And those arguments don't make it acceptable to kill someone for their crimes. I don't know if it society's job to punish the crime itself, but it is to make sure they are locked away from the rest of us. And if they are kept with lesser criminals and they harm them too, they should be locked away 23 hours a day, that is their own fault. If they are locked up with other killers, then it is survival of the fittest, and they are getting a better deal then whoever it is that they killed in the first place.
All lives are not as "precious" as you think. I would even take my own life if I were responsible for the death of an innocent person. But, that's just me.
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