Defending the Truth

Total BS - and you KNOW it.

An innocent pre-born baby is NOT the same as a guilty criminal.

An animal, no matter how "cute" is NOT a human. Period.


Spin, spin, spin!

So you get to decide what killing is moral? That is the only thing I have understood from your replies.

I don't believe killing a zygote is immoral whatsoever. Just as you don't think killing animals is immoral.


If you do think abortion is immoral you can choose not to participate, just as you can choose not to participate in homosexuality, eating animals, and a long list of other personal moralities (birth control, circumcision, etc).

I think that would be the crux of the matter. It is a personal morality issue. One to be decided for one self.
I don't understand why prolifers are so intent on enforcing their personal morality on other people's lives.
And jefferson before you start about how a murderer or pedophile might say the same about their actions, then the difference is that a zygote ( or unborn, or pre-baby or whatever) has not been a part of that system of rules that govern inter-human relationships. A murderer violates those rules of interhuman relationships that makes us beings, who are conscious of our existence, feel able to interact with each other. Same thing for pedophiles etc etc. Those rules must be upheld or else humans would not be able to function as a society.

Am i getting across or am i just sounding cryptic??

Occasionally even i can't tell........

Taking the life of an innocent person is murder.
Taking the life of a person guilty of murder is justice.

Comparing babies to animals is ludicrous.

So you're okay with murdering those who have no voice?

Reading about the Holocaust must be a joy to you.

When are you going to understand that whether it is immoral or not is a matter of PERSONAL MORALITY. If you find it immoral choose not to participate. But your personal morals have no juristiction over a woman's body.

I don't find the removal of a zygote or fetus to be immoral or murder. I'm pretty sure that you eat meat. People find that to be immoral and murder. Would you like it if their personal morality prevented you from putting what you want to in your body?

So murder is not universally recognized as wrong?

Murder is certainly universally accepted as wrong. However abortion is not universally accepted as murder.

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So we would round up and 4 women who are raped will try to have their rapists child agaisnt their will and die trying every year. Is that your idea of womens rights? These women could have careers and children husbands and family who love them and you figure it's a needed sacrifice. What if it were your wife who died? I bet your opinon would change. As for these 1.235 million unborn fetuses/babies. If a women has an abortion perhaps because she does not have the money to afford it. She could maybe wait a few years and then have another child or children and raise them in a better enviroment. But if she has the baby and barely gets by she could never have another child. Whatever the women feels is best for her future. No women likes to have an abortion but sometimes it must be done.

Only by those who salve their consciences by trying to convince themselves that it is not.