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Old 05-03-2006, 09:42 AM   #21 (permalink)
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He won't be a minor when it's time to fry......he needs to fry
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Old 05-03-2006, 03:09 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Ultimately one must ask does the punishment fit the crime??? While it is noble to believe that we should not execute minors, one must look at the crime. In the case that went before the Supreme Court the individual in question was 17, and bragged to his friends that he would not get the death penalty because he was a minor. He bragged about it. Capital Murder is charged when a murder is committed in conjunction with another crime, i.e. kidnapping or robbery, or when the murder was premeditated and planned. In this case, not only was the murder committed in conjunction with another crime, burglary, the individual had the forementioned thought to know that he could not be sentenced to death because he was a minor. In other words, he knew that even if he did kill someone, he could not face the most severe of all punishments because of his age. Can we all say premediation.

But please do not allow the facts get in the way of emotions. If your 17, and you kill don't worry you have a free hand, you will face the death penalty, so why even fear doing it???? The actions of the so-called child in this case showed no real concern for the value of human life, so why should we show concern for the value of his??

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Sure, you can try to justify it, and they may even deserve it. But in the end a child has been executed. That is the second tragedy, the first being the crime committed.
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Sure, you can try to justify it, and they may even deserve it. But in the end a child has been executed. That is the second tragedy, the first being the crime committed.
Do you apply that same line of reasoning to abortion?
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Do you apply that same line of reasoning to abortion?
No.
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Oh god. The sentences for minors are too little I must say. But killing them thats just harsh. The parents usually raise these kids up till there 18 and they hugely influence whether their kids does right or wrong. Its too young to judge whether the world would be better without them.
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No.
So then you admit to having blatant double standards which, in reality, amount to little more than situation ethics and moral relativism.

It's all a matter of what's easiest, and most convenient, at the time - not what's right or wrong.


You vote Democrat, don't you?
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How can a person justify in their own mind that a minor could be put to death. A teen is influenced by their parents, and they tend to mature a little latter than their teen years. An adult on the other hand should be put to death for their crimes, because during the act they knew exactly what they were doing. A teen may not have fully comprehended the action he was about to commit.
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So then you admit to having blatant double standards which, in reality, amount to little more than situation ethics and moral relativism.

It's all a matter of what's easiest, and most convenient, at the time - not what's right or wrong.


You vote Democrat, don't you?

No. I think it is an apples and oranges kind of analogy. The same standard does not apply to a human that has been born and walked the earth when compared to a zygote in the womb.

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Sure, you can try to justify it, and they may even deserve it. But in the end a child has been executed. That is the second tragedy, the first being the crime committed.
No, there is no tragedy in putting to death a murderer. And that is all that would have happened. The state would have taken the life of a murderer, he is no more or no less. No tragedy in that whatsoever.

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There is all the tragedy in putting to death a murderer. All the tragedy in that what are supposed to be civilized human beings stooping to the level of such disrespect to human life. Leave the unflinching brutality and contempt to the right of all to live to the Mullahs in the middle east, or to the North Korean police.

Doubly so when it comes to children. Sarge, you're a sick man you know that? I don't mean to be personally contumelious or defamatory to you in anyway when I say that, but the open support of the execution of minors truly is sick. If anyone that should be spared from the ruthless vindictiveness of such a policy, it should be those who are not morally culpable for their crimes. Namely minors and those with mental disabilities which would render them so.

Minors are young, ignorant, and significantly immature. The minor commiting murder will undoubtedly be changed in thirty or fourty years. What right does a government of the people, by the people, and for the people have to decide to take or give life? No, there is all the tragedy in putting to death a murderer, and doubly so a minor. There is all the tragedy and injustice tied into the moral support of such an attrocity such as this.

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