Jessica's Law - Page 2

musica · 05-29-2007, 01:06 AM

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mikelew007 · 05-31-2007, 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by sgtdmski

Truthfully, I think that the law is too lenient. Since child predators have the highest recitivism rate, and futher that many psychologists state that there is no real cure, then the sentence should also include castration to prevent the individuals from repeating their crimes once they are released. Since this will never fly, then the only solution is to incarcerate for longer periods of times.

They say that you can judge a society by how it treats its prisoners. What does it say about a society that coddles sexual predators toward children, when its prisoners will rape and sodomize and abuse said individuals. It seems to me that the prisoners themselves no better with how to deal with these sick bastards than the justice system.

dmk

You are absolutely correct. I mean you hear about these sickos being let off with what amounts to a slap on the wrist. They didn't really suffer for their crime so it's no wonder they feel they can re-offend over and over again. If it were up to me, punishment for child rape/attempted rape would go like this:

1st offense: 20 years and not rotting in a cell for 20 years, 20 years of hard labor and rehab, no parole. If that doesn't break them...
2nd offense: 25 years of hard labor (Again, no parole.); or death, a very painful death.
3rd offense: Death, you're done.

Tiny Blur · 06-01-2007, 09:53 AM

Yes, a sliding scale up to and including death should prevail, but care must be taken that accused are not railroaded either by accusers or the police.
I think that hits both sides of the argument.

Antithesis · 06-01-2007, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by sgtdmski

Truthfully, I think that the law is too lenient. Since child predators have the highest recitivism rate, and futher that many psychologists state that there is no real cure, then the sentence should also include castration to prevent the individuals from repeating their crimes once they are released. Since this will never fly, then the only solution is to incarcerate for longer periods of times.

They say that you can judge a society by how it treats its prisoners. What does it say about a society that coddles sexual predators toward children, when its prisoners will rape and sodomize and abuse said individuals. It seems to me that the prisoners themselves no better with how to deal with these sick bastards than the justice system.

dmk

Hear, hear. Ever hear the song "Date Rape" by Sublime? It's about a rapist who gets his just deserts by getting put away and raped in prison.

hevusa · 06-01-2007, 04:30 PM

Wow... where is the morality here? Forgiveness anyone?

What we need to ask ourselves is why America seems to have a higher rate of pedophiles when compared to other countries. And is this true... that we have a higher rate? It is difficult to find such stats but pedophilia seems to be very previlent in America.

What is creating them? What force in this country associates guilt with sexual pleasures? There you might find the cause...

mikelew007 · 06-01-2007, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by hevusa

Wow... where is the morality here? Forgiveness anyone?

We're not talking about forgiving the rapist, because that is what essentially these pedophiles are, we're discussing what would be an appropriate punishment for such a heinous crime. Anyone who is found guilty of rape should never be let off easy, especially child rape.

Now, I do believe in forgiveness but if it were my child who was raped, I really don't know how long it would take for me to forgive. It would probably be really, really hard to muster the will to forgive if I was placed in such a situation.

I agree that forgiveness shouldn't be taken out of the equation, but neither should justice.

hevusa · 06-01-2007, 05:08 PM

As my post tried to hint I think learning what is causing this behavior and PREVENTING it from happening would be far more effective than any jail time could accomplish.

It has been shown over and over that simply putting them in jail only delays the inevitable.

Now what in this country is associating guilt with sexual pleasure I ask?

mikelew007 · 06-01-2007, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by hevusa

As my post tried to hint I think learning what is causing this behavior and PREVENTING it from happening would be far more effective than any jail time could accomplish.

It has been shown over and over that simply putting them in jail only delays the inevitable.

We do need to try to prevent such crimes from occurring, but I don't think that we shouldn't punish people who do commit crimes and let them do the inevitable. I'm all for rehab but I don't want to just let them out into the public without being reprimanded for their crimes.

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Originally Posted by hevusa

Now what in this country is associating guilt with sexual pleasure I ask?

What I think? Well, our country has always looked down on sex, and it probably has to do with our puritanical roots but I'm not sure that is the reason pedophiles exist.

Do you think our history of sexual repression is an underlying cause of pedophilia?

hevusa · 06-01-2007, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by mikelew007

We do need to try to prevent such crimes from occurring, but I don't think that we shouldn't punish people who do commit crimes and let them do the inevitable. I'm all for rehab but I don't want to just let them out into the public without being reprimanded for their crimes.

I agree, they should be incarcerated. But during this time psychological treatment should occur as well. This usually does not occur in our legal system.

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Originally Posted by mikelew007

Do you think our history of sexual repression is an underlying cause of pedophilia?

I do think so. When it is taught to a child that having sex out of wedlock or even touching yourself can lead to an eternity of hellfire... yes, I think that has a SERIOUS and negative effect on the mind.

Nightrider · 06-01-2007, 06:44 PM

Here's the problem with laws like this:

Sex-offender residency laws get second look - USATODAY.com

Anyone in favor of tougher "sex offender" laws should find this article very interesting. That being said - anyone who rapes a child should have the same thing done to them, as long as there is conclusive DNA evidence. . .

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