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Old 08-31-2008, 10:03 PM   #121 (permalink)
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Yes, the Bible can be used to justify loving your enemies, or killing them.

I spent 20 seconds doing a quick seach on KJV for the word "destroy."

Exodus 12:23
For the LORD will pass through to smite the Egyptians; and when he seeth the blood upon the lintel, and on the two side posts, the LORD will pass over the door, and will not suffer the destroyer to come in unto your houses to smite you.

God can be shown as tender and kind, or wrathful and murderous... all depends on what behavior you'd like to justify.



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Old 09-01-2008, 12:41 AM   #122 (permalink)
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are you auditioning for the sling blade understudy?



you have no idea what my post was about? really?

Why is it that two men in a bed automatically means that they are having sex? I find it sad that so many people claim Christians are judgemental, when you are clearly pointing the finger in judgement.
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LOL

yeah, 'cause YOU know

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Its practiced in Europe today.
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Its practiced in Europe today.

This is a beef of mine. Would you please answer in complete thoughts!!!!
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I'm still waiting for televangelists like Swaggart to be put to death per Lev 20:10 for adultery.
Rightly so, he is no less guilty than any homosexual. God doesn't pick and choose who certain sin to be over looked. Gossiping is equal to genecide according to God.
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This is a beef of mine. Would you please answer in complete thoughts!!!!
Men sleeping the same bed; we can't assume that they are having sex.
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Luke 6:26-28

26 Woe unto you, when all men shall speak well of you! for so did their fathers to the false prophets.

27 But I say unto you which hear, Love your enemies, do good to them which hate you,

28 Bless them that curse you, and pray for them which despitefully use you.
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Fuck my enemies. I guess I'm not a good Christian
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Sure you are, PN. You just need to find the relevant verse to support your view.

Here's one for you:
Exodus 12:23
For the LORD will pass through to smite the Egyptians; and when he seeth the blood upon the lintel, and on the two side posts, the LORD will pass over the door, and will not suffer the destroyer to come in unto your houses to smite you.
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Old 09-01-2008, 11:49 AM   #130 (permalink)
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Men sleeping the same bed; we can't assume that they are having sex.
Actually in the original Greek it does not say two men upon a bed or two in a field, nor does the next verse say two women. All it says is two upon a bed and two in a field. (Depending upon whether you look at Luke or Matthew) The two could be taken as two men, two women, two people, two children, etc.

Ancient Greek has three genders: male, female and neuter. While many numbers are declined in all three genders, δυο, Greek for two, does not. It is not written with respect to gender and so without a noun or direct article it is impossible to tell the gender in this case. Translators have inserted men and women into the verses because it is less likely we would simply say two upon a bed in English, we would add another noun.
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