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Points: 10,991, Level: 69 | Level up: 70%, 259 Points needed | | Michael Deaver, aide to Ronald Reagan, dies Read full story for latest details. View the full article here. |
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08-18-2007, 11:18 PM
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Level up: 53%, 72 Points needed | | Another of the Reaganites has left us. Such a shame, Deaver was a good visual man for the President. It is a shame that CNN even in writing of his passing cannot do so without showing their liberal bend: Quote: |
To exert as much control as possible, Deaver steered the president away from reporters when he could, instead arranging Reagan in poses and settings that conveyed visually the message of the moment. Presidential news conferences were a rarity, which suited an actor-turned-politician who was at his best when using a script.
| I guess those around CNN don't spend much time reading, such a shame, for they too have shown their ignorance once more. But what do you expect, unless it fits into their version of the facts, it will never be accepted.
Unfortunately for them, as Mulder would say, "The Truth is Out There" they just can't find it.
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08-19-2007, 02:18 AM
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Level up: 36%, 7 Points needed | | Ooo-kay? Where is this liberal bend again? Oh, I get it, if there is any remark made against Reagan or his pals, even if it only perceived to be a negative remark, it must be liberal ignorance am I right?
You took one small piece of the article and used it to attack CNN for having a purported liberal bias.
How about I do the same ok? Quote: |
Deaver protected the commander in chief's image and enhanced it with a flair for choosing just the right settings, poses and camera angles.
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Deaver's greatest skill "was in arranging what were known as good visuals -- televised events or scenes that would leave a powerful symbolic image in people's minds," former first lady Nancy Reagan recalled in her memoir, "My Turn."
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One example was Reagan's visit to the beaches of Normandy, in France, to commemorate the 40th anniversary of the Allied invasion of Europe during World War II. Deaver arranged for Reagan to appear on a cliff overlooking the English Channel and address D-Day veterans, which yielded dramatic video and still images of the president.
| Oh, look positive remarks about the guy! Should I spin this bit of writing and claim that CNN is Pro-Reaganite? Or should I do the right thing and look at the article as a whole?
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08-19-2007, 02:41 AM
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Level up: 53%, 72 Points needed | | This was an article about the passing of Micheal Deaver, yet for some strange reason, it was found necessary to include a little blurb about President Reagan and needing a script. Why was that comment necessary?????
Furthermore, if it is news, then at least perhaps we should except a little truth, unfortunately, that one comment alone is false. THe literature since President Reagan's death has gone to prove that, from his diaries to his writings before coming President, one glaring fact has been discovered by academics - Reagan had deeply held beliefs that he based his ideas upon, and over the course of his career they never changed. The ideas were his, the technical details he left to people better suited to developing.
So what was the point of CNN including in this article a blatant lie??????????
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Originally Posted by sgtdmski This was an article about the passing of Micheal Deaver, yet for some strange reason, it was found necessary to include a little blurb about President Reagan and needing a script. Why was that comment necessary?????
Why did they include a blurb about Reagan, hmmm maybe because Deaver was one of Reagan's advisers?
IDK, maybe he thought that Reagan spoke more eloquently when reading from a script, or a speech if you will as opposed to off the cuff remarks or when dealing with the press (IDK, I wasn't even one when Bush Sr. took office.); or that while he left the style and the flash to his advisers, he was the one in control of the susbstance, the meat of the storyline, or the "script" of his presidency.
Watch an excerpt from his famous speech where he asked Gorbachev to tear down the Berlin Wall, he was obviously using a script and it turned out to be one of the greatest speeches of the 20th century, but maybe I'm being a little too literal about it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=<obje...mbed></object>Furthermore, if it is news, then at least perhaps we should except a little truth, unfortunately, that one comment alone is false. THe literature since President Reagan's death has gone to prove that, from his diaries to his writings before coming President, one glaring fact has been discovered by academics - Reagan had deeply held beliefs that he based his ideas upon, and over the course of his career they never changed. The ideas were his, the technical details he left to people better suited to developing. Yea and that was what the whole article was about, remembering an adviser to President Reagan who helped create "the president's picturesque and symbolic public appearances". I don't think that the guy who wrote the article meant to convey the idea that Reagan was somehow lacking of personal convictions and that he needed to use the ideas of others to set his agenda for the country.
So what was the point of CNN including in this article a blatant lie??????????
dmk | If you decided to look at the article as whole, instead of taking one little bit that you found to be somehow objectionable and going on complaining about how CNN lied and has a liberal slant, you could have found the oodles of facts and truth and positive opinion about the guy.
You know what, maybe the comment wasn't 100% necessary, but if anything, it did help flesh out Deaver's role as one of Reagan's presidential advisers which was the whole point of the article.
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