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| Congressional Representative ![]() Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Grand Rapids, Michigan Gender: ![]() Posts: 2,291 Country: ![]()
| Jesus, Gary, do you have a life? | |||||||||||||||||||||
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| Partisan Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Los Angeles Gender: ![]() Posts: 10,805 Country: ![]()
| Doggone it darn right you betcha bless your heart maverick | |||||||||||||||||||||
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| SIMPLETON Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: In my skin Gender: ![]() Posts: 8,919 Country: ![]()
| I don't...I'll readily admit it. But it pays like a sumbitch. | |||||||||||||||||||||
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| Citizen ![]() Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 12
| Many of the principles of the Founding Fathers, whether or not they practiced Christianity, based the constitution on are considered Christian values. Yet, the constitution deliberatly seperated church and state, to keep this from becoming a nation under one religion and to keep, as in many European countries, the church from having power over the government and vice versa. They believed that people had the right to practice their own religions. Though it is a predominantly Christian nation, it is not a completely Christian nation. That would be a generalization that cuts out many contributing members of society. Without them, our country would not be as great as it is today. When he says that he would only feel comfortable with a Christian President, he says that not realizing many of the values he considers Christian, are shared by other predominant faiths and that many Christians do not agree with the values he many consider Christian. If he would not feel comfortable with a Christian president, then look at Hitler who considered himself a Christian. Would he feel comfortable with Hitler as president? I doubt it. | |||||||||||||||||||||
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| SIMPLETON Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: In my skin Gender: ![]() Posts: 8,919 Country: ![]()
| I can't agree with your Hitler reference. I think Hitler had many issues that made his being a "Christian" a lower rung on the ladder of his personality. A Christian Psychopath is defined more by the psychopathology than the Christainity that he/she may believe in. IMHO. The ten commandments say "Thou shalt not kill". When a minister kills someone, I have a big problem considering them an example of a "Christian" that I would like to use in an argument. I have a problem defining a religion by those who fail to follow it. | |||||||||||||||||||||
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| I wasn't saying Hitler was a model Christian or even should be considered Christian at all but that he considered himself a Christian meaning that McCain would feel more comfortable with him as President than say Ghandi. | |||||||||||||||||||||
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| SIMPLETON Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: In my skin Gender: ![]() Posts: 8,919 Country: ![]()
| I don't think he meant "that" Christain. I would rather my breakfast pastry be Pop-Tart brand, but I only like non-frosted Blueberry flavor. There are MANY flavors of Christian just as there are Pop-Tarts. THAT'S what I mean. | |||||||||||||||||||||
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| Senator ![]() Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Columbus, OH Gender: ![]() Posts: 3,687 Country: ![]()
| So you're saying he wouldn't be comfortable with a conservative Christian? "If you want to achieve peace of mind and happiness, then have faith; if you want to be a disciple of truth, then search" -- Friedrich Nietzsche Economic Left/Right: -9.50 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.72 | |||||||||||||||||||||
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| SIMPLETON Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: In my skin Gender: ![]() Posts: 8,919 Country: ![]()
| I'm saying that he wouldn't be comfortable with Hitler. | |||||||||||||||||||||
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| Senator ![]() Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Columbus, OH Gender: ![]() Posts: 3,687 Country: ![]()
| Exactly. "If you want to achieve peace of mind and happiness, then have faith; if you want to be a disciple of truth, then search" -- Friedrich Nietzsche Economic Left/Right: -9.50 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.72 | |||||||||||||||||||||
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