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Old 10-31-2007, 10:03 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Court Stops Execution, Signaling Change - AOL News

The story above is about a possible stoppage of lethal injection in carrying out capital punishment.

Now, before lethal injections in the USA (not other countries), there were hangings, firing squads, gas chambers, and electric chairs.

If the USSC should deem that lethal injections is cruel and unusual punishment, what other methods are there? Basically, I think this may end all executions as we know it.
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Old 10-31-2007, 10:07 AM   #2 (permalink)
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They could come up with a cell disintegrator that instantly cremates a prisoner.
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Well, that could be considered worse than most methods, but then, what else is out there?
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Court Stops Execution, Signaling Change - AOL News

The story above is about a possible stoppage of lethal injection in carrying out capital punishment.

Now, before lethal injections in the USA (not other countries), there were hangings, firing squads, gas chambers, and electric chairs.

If the USSC should deem that lethal injections is cruel and unusual punishment, what other methods are there? Basically, I think this may end all executions as we know it.
Death by slow torture comes to mind.
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Well, let's be realistic here. So say that the USSC decides that lethal injection. Now, what would be the most humane way to execute, if defense attorneys and prosecuting agree on the method. And whatever the ACLU says, they will always say that any method is cruel and unusual.

I think there are no other options left.
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Well, let's be realistic here. So say that the USSC decides that lethal injection. Now, what would be the most humane way to execute, if defense attorneys and prosecuting agree on the method. And whatever the ACLU says, they will always say that any method is cruel and unusual.

I think there are no other options left.

Hwy, what I have not seen addressed and what needs to be done is to simply reevaluate the drugs that are being used.

The complaint about the current method, if I understand it correctly, is that the sedating drugs do not keep the person being executed unconscious while the other drugs take affect. And that he wakes up to find himself paralyzed by a second drug and unable to let anyone know he is awake. The third drug, I believe, stops the heart and if one is conscious, feels the same as a heart attack.

It seems to me that lawmakers are just making this problem more difficult than it should be.

After all, when one has surgery, the doctors keep you out for not just minutes, but sometimes hours. It should be simple enough to come up with a different sedative or combination of sedatives that assures unconsciousness long enough for the lethal drugs to take affect.

On the other hand, I, personally don't really care if the death penalty is halted in the U.S. because the lawmakers are to fugging dumb to figure out how to make it humane. It is applied much too broadly and randomly to serve any legitimate purpose in a civilized society anyway.

And we are a civilized society, aren't we?
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Hwy, what I have not seen addressed and what needs to be done is to simply reevaluate the drugs that are being used.

The complaint about the current method, if I understand it correctly, is that the sedating drugs do not keep the person being executed unconscious while the other drugs take affect. And that he wakes up to find himself paralyzed by a second drug and unable to let anyone know he is awake. The third drug, I believe, stops the heart and if one is conscious, feels the same as a heart attack.

It seems to me that lawmakers are just making this problem more difficult than it should be.

After all, when one has surgery, the doctors keep you out for not just minutes, but sometimes hours. It should be simple enough to come up with a different sedative or combination of sedatives that assures unconsciousness long enough for the lethal drugs to take affect.

On the other hand, I, personally don't really care if the death penalty is halted in the U.S. because the lawmakers are to fugging dumb to figure out how to make it humane. It is applied much too broadly and randomly to serve any legitimate purpose in a civilized society anyway.

And we are a civilized society, aren't we?
The executioner would usually give the comdemned an OD of the drugs used, would he not?

One of the drugs to put the person to sleep during surgery in most cases is Sodium Pentothal. That's supposedly what is used on the condemned prisoner.

If a patient is going to have endoscopy or the other kind of test, usually Versed would be used.

Now, for the second part, and somebody help me on this, but isn't potassium chloride used?

I don't know what the third drug is used for. But you're right, there can always be debates among our elected official, attorneys, and judges about this.
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The death penalty is a necessary evil. Whether you consider it civilized or not, it is allowed for by the United States Constitution.

Lethal injection utilizes three drugs to accomplish the death penalty:

Sodium thiopental: to render the offender unconscious.

Pancuronium/Tubocurarine: to stop all muscle movement except the heart. This causes muscle paralysis, collapse of the diaphragm, and would eventually cause death by asphyxiation.

Potassium chloride: to stop the heart from beating, and thus cause death: see cardiac arrest.

The problem with the process lies with the first drug. The problem is that the drug can wear off in as little as 5 - 15 minutes. This means that a patient may be conscious but due to the administration of the second set of drugs, unable to move. The other problem with the drug is that if you increase the dosage used, it can lead to respiration depression and vascular constriction which are fatal as well.

Currently almost all drugs that are used for unconsciousness have a short time frame. Herein lies the problem.

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Thanks Sgt. for giving the details on the drugs. I had intended to look it up but never got around to it.
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