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Old 04-26-2008, 11:51 AM   #11 (permalink)
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April 26, 2008

A Decision of Many Words Put the Fateful Ones Last

By MICHAEL WILSON

Criminal verdicts almost always contain either one word or two. The Sean Bell verdict ran 1,164 words, a methodical and unusual look into a judge’s examination of the burden of proof by the people of the County of Queens.

“The court did not view the victims or the N.Y.P.D. as being on trial here,” Justice Arthur J. Cooperman said in a packed courtroom Friday in delivering his verdict on the detectives charged in Mr. Bell’s death. But much of the most damning language was indeed directed at the victims, both at behavior that the judge saw as fomenting the tension that led to the shooting, and then at statements on the stand that he found dubious.

In his words the judge clearly favored the testimony of the detectives, given before a grand jury last year, over that of prosecution witnesses and, in particular, the two men wounded in the shooting, Joseph Guzman and Trent Benefield.

The decision is notable for what it does not mention: one of the most explosive elements of the trial, the fact that 50 bullets were fired at three unarmed men, 31 of them by Detective Michael Oliver, who reloaded in the middle of the fusillade.

At the same time, Justice Cooperman makes it clear that it was his job to decide whether prosecutors proved their case — that the officers were not justified when they opened fire — and not whether they had performed their jobs poorly. That, he wrote, would be up to others to decide.

The verdict, in its cool, unadorned style, is a lesson in witness credibility and its key role in eliminating reasonable doubt. In contrast to much of the heated testimony, the verdict is written without flourish or pontification, beginning with a reminder to the gallery to keep quiet and recognition of the difficulty of the last two months.

“In many ways, this trial was a hardship,” Justice Cooperman said.

The first hint of which way the verdict was heading may have come, to some alert ears, soon after, when the judge seemed to pause to point out that “establishments known as ‘strip clubs’ often generate criminal activity including prostitution and narcotics.” If he had decided to convict the detectives, it would seem unlikely that he would point out valid reasons they had for being at Club Kalua that night.

“An objective consideration of the proof ruled out sympathy and prejudice and any other emotional response to the issues presented,” he said.

He said he leaned on evidence that suggested what was going through the detectives’ minds and not Mr. Bell’s. “What the victims did was more pertinent to resolving the issues of fact than what may have been in their minds,” he said.

He suggested that whatever the police did wrong that night should be determined elsewhere: “Carelessness and incompetence are not standards to be applied here, unless the conduct rises to the level of criminal acts.”

The judge focused on testimony on two key moments: the argument between Mr. Bell and a stranger, Fabio Coicou, outside Club Kalua, and the seconds before Detective Gescard F. Isnora opened fire. In doing so, the judge said, he was aware that witnesses recalling the same event might tell it a little differently. “However,” he wrote, “where there are significant inconsistencies related to important facts, they should be considered.”

What Justice Cooperman found in the testimony of the 50 prosecution witnesses were myriad significant inconsistencies. And he listed them among the reasons he found the prosecution’s case to have failed: “Prior inconsistent statements, inconsistencies in testimony among prosecution witnesses, the renunciation of prior statements, criminal convictions, the interest of some witnesses in the outcome of the case, the demeanor on the witness stand of other witnesses and the motive witnesses may have had to lie and the effect it had on the truthfulness of a witness’s testimony.

“These factors,” he continued, “played a significant part in the people’s ability to prove their case beyond a reasonable doubt and had the effect of eviscerating the credibility of those prosecution witnesses. And, at times, the testimony just didn’t make sense.”

The judge seemed to single out the two key prosecution witnesses, Mr. Guzman and Mr. Benefield. Of the former, the judge simply stated that he believed what Detective Isnora said, that he had heard Mr. Guzman tell someone to get him his gun, a claim Mr. Guzman denied.

Justice Cooperman was harsher on Mr. Benefield, calling his credibility “seriously impeached.” He said Mr. Benefield’s claims to have been shot while running away were contradicted by forensic evidence.

By four-fifths of the way through the ruling, the judge still had not disclosed his verdict, but it was becoming clearer how he would rule. “The police response with respect to each defendant was not proved to be criminal,” he said, “beyond a reasonable doubt.”

He followed with a finding on a critical element in the prosecution’s failure to show guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. “The people have not proved, beyond a reasonable doubt, that each defendant was not justified in the actions that each took,” he wrote.

The verdict’s style surprised listeners who were expecting a rundown of the indictment’s eight counts, with “guilty” or “not guilty” attached to each defendant’s name.

The actual verdict only arrived with the last sentence:

“Accordingly, the court finds each defendant not guilty of each of the respective counts in the indictment of which they were charged.”

The judge announced the court to be in recess, and left the room.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/26/ny...hp&oref=slogin
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Anybody that doesn't think that "Black people" can have prejudice against their own people is completely ignorant about that fact as well. I didn't say white people wouldn't shoot at a bunch of white youths. No person would shoot at a car full of white kids 50 times like they did in this case.
Police are authorized to use deadly force in certain circumstances, with this incident appearing to be one of those circumstances.

So, if you ask me, it doesn't matter if the NYPD fired 50 shots or just a single shot....just as long as the rest of the public was not put in danger by these actions.

(You can play the race card all you want. But this incident and court proceedings aren't about race.)
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Police are authorized to use deadly force in certain circumstances, with this incident appearing to be one of those circumstances.
This doesn't appear to be one of those circumstances though. No weapon found on the victims, unmarked cars, and plain clothes officers. The victims thought they were being attacked. And it appears they were.

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So, if you ask me, it doesn't matter if the NYPD fired 50 shots or just a single shot....just as long as the rest of the public was not put in danger by these actions.

(You can play the race card all you want. But this incident and court proceedings aren't about race.)
The wanton violence in this incident was enhanced by the race of the victims, but I agree the court proceeding was not about race, and race should never be a factor in a court case. And you think "the rest of the public" wasn't put in danger by 50 rounds fired off? That was just luck.
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This doesn't appear to be one of those circumstances though. No weapon found on the victims, unmarked cars, and plain clothes officers. The victims thought they were being attacked. And it appears they were.
I'll admit that some of the court testimony appears to be "he said/she said" in nature, meaning that some of the described details surrounding the incident are subjective opinions rather than objective facts.

But, as the article I posted mentioned, this trial "is a lesson in witness credibility and its key role in eliminating reasonable doubt."

And I think that, if the witnesses and their testimonies were more credible, the verdict in this case might have been different.

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The wanton violence in this incident was enhanced by the race of the victims, but I agree the court proceeding was not about race, and race should never be a factor in a court case. And you think "the rest of the public" wasn't put in danger by 50 rounds fired off? That was just luck.
So you know for a fact that the black officer's and the black/hispanic officer's decisions to fire or repeatedly fire at these suspects were "enhanced" by the race of the subjects?

Or, is this just your opinion?

(Without knowing the details about the trajectories of the policemen's bullets as they exited their guns, I find it impossible to determine if any members of the rest of the public where put in danger during this incident. And, in order to remain objective, you would have to conclude the same thing. And, if a bystander was hit by a stray bullet, he or she would have his or her day in court too.)

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I'll admit that some of the court testimony appears to be "he said/she said" in nature, meaning that some of the described details surrounding the incident are subjective opinions rather than objective facts.

But, as the article I posted mentioned, this trial "is a lesson in witness credibility and its key role in eliminating reasonable doubt."

And I think that, if the witnesses and their testimonies were more credible, the verdict in this case might have been different.
So very true. I don't disagree with the verdict as I read it. Just the actions of the officers was waaay over the top.


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So you know for a fact that the black officer's and the black/hispanic officer's decisions to fire or repeatedly fire at these suspects were "enhanced" by the race of the subjects?

Or, is this just your opinion?
Do you know it wasn't? All I know is I can come up with a few instances where black unarmed "perps" have been beaten or shot repeatedly. One of them in NYC. Rather suspicious. Can't think of this happening to a white guy?
It's a shame the dead guy was hanging with ex-cons.

Aren't we here to give opinions?

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(Without knowing the details about the trajectories of the policemen's bullets as they exited their guns, I find it impossible to determine if any members of the rest of the public where put in danger during this incident. And, in order to remain objective, you would have to conclude the same thing. And, if a bystander was hit by a stray bullet, he or she would have his or her day in court too.)
Trajectory really doesn't matter. They were shooting at a vehicle. "If" we are gonna deal in "ifs", you can't aim a ricochet. And "if" there was an innocent bystander, I hope his/her witnesses will have better credibility than these guys.
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Do you know it wasn't?
I don't "know" it wasn't any more or less than you "know" it was.

We don't "know" either way.
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A link to the text of the judge's verbal verdict:

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/package...5_VERDICT3.pdf

(I suppose the judge's written verdict will be made available sometime too.)
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I don't "know" it wasn't any more or less than you "know" it was.

We don't "know" either way.
What we do know is that we have a team of armed plain clothes officers who "say" that they heard one of these men get into a confrontation and say he was going to get a gun. But they didn't get a gun, they got in a vehicle and were leaving the scene. So these plain clothes officers decided to stop these men who they admit were already in a confrontation and trying to leave. Before it was over, they had shot 50 rounds and a man who had committed no crime yet is dead. That is my opinion of the situation.

And no I don't "know" that the race of the victims amplified the situation, but again, I know that it has happened in the past, and there had to be something that makes a human being fire that many rounds at another human being that is not firing back. I don't see where they might have thought that was okay. And even if they DID think it was okay to do it, they should not be policemen. Because it isn't okay to shoot 50 times at another unarmed unthreatening human being. Especially when you are purposely dressed as a plain citizen.

I read a synopsis of the judges verdict. And I can't disagree with his conclusion that the prosecution presented a weak case and the witnesses had poor credibility.
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I remember hearing this on the news, and feeling sickened that this could happen.

Just a few days ago I was sicken yet again, when the cops who shot this man were cleared of all charges.

Obviously, they used excessive force. There is simply no need for so many shots to be fired in order to kill a man.
Apparently, the policemen 'thought' he was going to harm them, so opened fire. IMO, 'thinking' is not good enough. Whether Bell was armed, whether he was high on coke or whatever, is NO excuse to shoot him as many times as they did. The man never stood a chance, because those cops never gave him one.

I'll play the race card, too. It pissed me off when people play the race card, but in this case, I'm playing it. I am of the belief that there is no way in Hell that this would have happened to a white man.
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What we do know is that we have a team of armed plain clothes officers who "say" that they heard one of these men get into a confrontation and say he was going to get a gun. But they didn't get a gun, they got in a vehicle and were leaving the scene. So these plain clothes officers decided to stop these men who they admit were already in a confrontation and trying to leave. Before it was over, they had shot 50 rounds and a man who had committed no crime yet is dead. That is my opinion of the situation.

And no I don't "know" that the race of the victims amplified the situation, but again, I know that it has happened in the past, and there had to be something that makes a human being fire that many rounds at another human being that is not firing back. I don't see where they might have thought that was okay. And even if they DID think it was okay to do it, they should not be policemen. Because it isn't okay to shoot 50 times at another unarmed unthreatening human being. Especially when you are purposely dressed as a plain citizen.

I read a synopsis of the judges verdict. And I can't disagree with his conclusion that the prosecution presented a weak case and the witnesses had poor credibility.
I actually agree with the judge's opinion that several of the prosecution witnesses testimonies contradicted.
But that takes us back to my original point. Yes, police have discretion to use deadly force to ptotect themselves and any innocent parties in deadly situations. But where was the threat? Words? Sorry, not considered to be a viable excuse to believe the officers were in danger by me.
My other issue- at what point in time did the officer who fired 31 times 1) decide he was in mortal danger to make him need to use his weapon; and 2) Why did he even stop firing? What changed to make him think that he was no longer in danger?
My guess is that these officers suddenly realized that they hadn't even been fired upon. And somewhere between several re-loadings of his weapon one of these officers woke up to this fact.
I am sure that the US Justice Department- if not the US Attorney General- will be reviewing this information and transcripts of the trial. I'm going to offer my opinion that these officer will be found guilty of use of excessive force, and possibly a wrongful death civil suit will follow.
Having said all of this; what really set me off was that only one of the officers even acknowledged the fact that parents lost a son, a woman lost her husband-to-be, and children lost a father. You could tell from his post-trial statement that he felt true remorse at this whole situation; while the other officers and their spokesman were "thumping their chests" thanking the judge and reminding the remorseful officer that he should thank the judge also.
The next few weeks and months will be tense in New York, to say the least.
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