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09-07-2006, 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by hevusa | That's terrible. What would really be terrible is if you were a homo raghead. That would be a double slur. Poor guy. I need sensitivity training for sure.
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09-07-2006, 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by foundit66 Wow! You are COMPLETELY out of touch with reality.
The title of this thread is "Republicans divided on legal rights of detainees".
Ergo, EVEN THE REPUBLICANS are having their doubts over the current administration's treatment.
The "vast majority of Americans" clearly DO give a damn.
Hevusa was talking about INNOCENT PEOPLE who were detained in Gitmo.
And even when we are talking about INNOCENT PEOPLE, you don't give a crap about the rights of others.
Man. You are REALLY out there... | Then talk to the republicans about it. I aint a republican. I'm an American. |
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09-07-2006, 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by alias Then talk to the republicans about it. I aint a republican. I'm an American. | It's funny how you say you aren't a republican, yet you defend them tooth and nail.
On the flip side, I think there is plenty wrong with both parties that needs to be fixed, and I realize that there will be no fixing going on as long as people like you play partisan politics.
With that aside, ...
Hevusa was talking about INNOCENT PEOPLE who were detained in Gitmo.
And even when we are talking about INNOCENT PEOPLE, you don't give a crap about the rights of others.
Man. You are REALLY out there...
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09-07-2006, 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by foundit66 It's funny how you say you aren't a republican, yet you defend them tooth and nail.
On the flip side, I think there is plenty wrong with both parties that needs to be fixed, and I realize that there will be no fixing going on as long as people like you play partisan politics.
With that aside, ...
Hevusa was talking about INNOCENT PEOPLE who were detained in Gitmo.
And even when we are talking about INNOCENT PEOPLE, you don't give a crap about the rights of others.
Man. You are REALLY out there... | I defend whoever is doing the job. The demoncraps sure aint doing anything except making life miserable for people who have a war to fight and win. I tell you what you do with your innocent raghead goat fuckers. You nurse them on your tit, not mine. |
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09-07-2006, 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by alias I defend whoever is doing the job. The demoncraps sure aint doing anything except making life miserable for people who have a war to fight and win. I tell you what you do with your innocent raghead goat fuckers. You nurse them on your tit, not mine. | Mat 5:43 ¶ Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.
Mat 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
WHAT JESUS TAUGHT. "LOVE (AGAPE) THY ENEMIES."
A. Next few statements so difficult that volumes have been written to explain it away.
B. Jesus illustrates "love your enemies by."
1. If you are cursed - bless.
2. Do good to those that hate you.
3. Pray for those who despitefully use you and persecute you.
C. God's love to set example.
1. He makes sun to rise on the evil and the good.
2. He sends the rain on just and unjust.
3. "But God commendeth His Love toward us."
4. "If when we were enemies of God."
5. Had God not loved sinful, rebellious, hating world, where would we be?
D. God's perfection to be our goal. "Be ye therefore perfect even as your Father in heaven is perfect."
III. HOW IS IT POSSIBLE TO OBEY CHRIST'S COMMAND?
A. We must be detached.
1. From the actions of others.
a. Else we are prone to react.
2. From ourselves - for until you are detached from yourself you can never be detached from what others do to you.
3. Death to self again imperative.
B. We must be filled with His Spirit.
1. "Now the fruit of the Spirit is love."
2. Love is a part of the nature of God.
3. To love an enemy is an impossible command to a natural man. Blue Letter Bible - Commentaries
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09-07-2006, 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by foundit66 Mat 5:43 ¶ Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.
Mat 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
WHAT JESUS TAUGHT. "LOVE (AGAPE) THY ENEMIES."
A. Next few statements so difficult that volumes have been written to explain it away.
B. Jesus illustrates "love your enemies by."
1. If you are cursed - bless.
2. Do good to those that hate you.
3. Pray for those who despitefully use you and persecute you.
C. God's love to set example.
1. He makes sun to rise on the evil and the good.
2. He sends the rain on just and unjust.
3. "But God commendeth His Love toward us."
4. "If when we were enemies of God."
5. Had God not loved sinful, rebellious, hating world, where would we be?
D. God's perfection to be our goal. "Be ye therefore perfect even as your Father in heaven is perfect."
III. HOW IS IT POSSIBLE TO OBEY CHRIST'S COMMAND?
A. We must be detached.
1. From the actions of others.
a. Else we are prone to react.
2. From ourselves - for until you are detached from yourself you can never be detached from what others do to you.
3. Death to self again imperative.
B. We must be filled with His Spirit.
1. "Now the fruit of the Spirit is love."
2. Love is a part of the nature of God.
3. To love an enemy is an impossible command to a natural man. Blue Letter Bible - Commentaries | Are you going to start your own church now? What's the name gonna be?> |
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09-07-2006, 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by alias Are you going to start your own church now? What's the name gonna be?> | Wow! Quoting commentary along with the bible passages really does seem to render you incapable of responding to the point, doesn't it.
I guess some people just don't want to hear what the Bible has to say to them.
Which is fine, unless of course the person pretends to think that they believe in and follow Jesus.
Then that just makes them a hypocrite...
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09-07-2006, 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by foundit66 Wow! Quoting commentary along with the bible passages really does seem to render you incapable of responding to the point, doesn't it.
I guess some people just don't want to hear what the Bible has to say to them.
Which is fine, unless of course the person pretends to think that they believe in and follow Jesus.
Then that just makes them a hypocrite... | Quote your bible verses to the guy holding a sword to your throat as he is about to slice your head off and tell me what happens. |
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09-07-2006, 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by alias Quote your bible verses to the guy holding a sword to your throat as he is about to slice your head off and tell me what happens. | Mat 26:52 Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword.
(2.) The rebuke which our Lord Jesus gave him (v. 52); Put up again thy sword into its place. He does not command the officers and soldiers to put up their swords that were drawn against him, he left them to the judgment of God, who judges them that are without; but he commands Peter to put up his sword, does not chide him indeed for what he had done, because done out of good will, but stops the progress of his arms, and provides that it should not be drawn into a precedent. Christ’s errand into the world was to make peace. Note, The weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but spiritual; and Christ’s ministers, though they are his soldiers, do not war after the flesh, 2 Co. 10:3, 4. Not that the law of Christ overthrows either the law of nature of the law of nations, as far as those warrant subjects to stand up in defence of their civil rights and liberties, and their religion, when it is incorporated with them; but it provides for the preservation of public peace and order, by forbidding private persons, qua tales—as such, to resist the powers that are; nay, we have a general precept that we resist not evil (ch. 5:39), nor will Christ have his ministers propagate his religion by force of arms, Religio cogi non potest; et defendenda non occidendo, sed moriendo—Religion cannot be forced; and it should be defended, not by killing, but by dying. Lactantii Institut. As Christ forbade his disciples the sword of justice (ch. 20:25, 26), so here the sword of war. Christ bade Peter put up his sword, and never bade him draw it again; yet that which Peter is here blamed for is his doing it unseasonably; the hour was come for Christ to suffer and die, he knew Peter knew it, the sword of the Lord was drawn against him (Zec. 13:7), and for Peter to draw his sword for him, was like, Master, spare thyself. Blue Letter Bible - Commentaries
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