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The article states SOME, and then refuses to say how many are actually accidental numerical issues. It says SOME. Not "most". Quote:
Parts of the Patriot Act, including a section on "roving wiretaps," expire in December. Such wiretaps allow the FBI to get permission from a secret federal court to listen in on any phone line or monitor any Internet account that a terrorism suspect may be using, whether or not others who are not suspects also regularly use it.I have no problem with "roving wiretaps" involving an ACTUAL warrant. But "secret federal courts"? Using the word "permission" as opposed to "warrant"? There is something SERIOUSLY wrong with that picture. Quote:
You are GROSSLY misquoting the story, bordering on "lying". You claimed "most" when the article actually says "some". The article just talks about the EXISTENCE of the Patriot Act program. The legality of that aspect of it, and HOW MANY of the warrantless wiretaps are of that nature, also has yet to be seen. I believe the latest is a judge ruling that Bush's warrantless wire-tapping program must stop. Unfortunately, the current administration is being incredibly tight-lipped about it, asking for maximum openness from the U.S. civilians but an insistence that the government's tactics not be questioned. "(Gay marriage) is a debate about whether you think gay people are part of the human condition or just a random fetish." -- Jon Stewart "Please don't judge others by your own standards." -- Garysher | ||||||||||||||||||||||||
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And for the record, I have yet to see anybody show an example of this happening with the democrats in power. Plenty of allegations against the democrats trying to excuse the republicans by implying that the democrats are guilty of it too, but no explicit naming of an issue that the democrats allowed violation of checks and balances. "(Gay marriage) is a debate about whether you think gay people are part of the human condition or just a random fetish." -- Jon Stewart "Please don't judge others by your own standards." -- Garysher | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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Upon an application made pursuant to section 1804 of this title, the judge shall enter an ex parte order as requested or as modified approving the electronic surveillance if he finds that— Quote:
By trying to imply that only some of the mistakes were technical, when in actuality the word some was used to represent the amount of mistakes. The FBI said that there were some mistakes. And furthermore you continue to try to use this article in conjunction with the NSA Foreign Surveillance Program. It is not the same thing!!! It is not now, nor has it ever been the same thing!!! So who is really lying!!!!!!!!!! dmk Conservatism, I repeat is not an ideology. It does not breed fanatics....But if you want men who seek, reasonably and prudently, to reconcile the best in wisdom of our ancestors with the change which is essential to a vigorous civil social existence, then you will do well to turn to conservative principles -Russell Kirk- | ||||||||||||||||||||||||
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