Defending the Truth

So stem cells reproduce too?

I'll have to do some research and come back to this.

They are the very beginnings of the new cells, before they become specific.... before they are bone cells, or white blood cells, or skin cells.... In the "cured diabetics" thing, stem cells were harvested from the diabetics, and they were injected into the pancreas, thus they became pancreatic cells that were needed to produce insulin. From what I read of the research project, it sounded sort of like rounding up the things and heading them in the right direction to do the most good! Very hopeful research.

I know they can fuse bone and nerve in a rat's broken leg, and give it mobility. I shall look for a good site later.

Yeah, what did ever happen to valuing human life in this country? I used to think the ability to develop a cure for some of the biggest killers of humans (real ones!) was something worth funding. But I guess I was wrong. Maybe some frozen goo that's going to be destroyed anyway is more valuable than human beings.

While we're at it, I think we should ban masturbation. After all, every sperm can become a human being. It's essentially genocide every time. Its sick!

So tell me, how to we weigh the value of life?? When is alright to kill one so another can survive? Or is that not alright. When does the loss of one life to save many lives balance out. What number? 1 life for 1 life, 1 life for 10, 1 for 100 or is it 1 for 1000. By that token, then why do we condemn the Tuskegee experiments, were they not based upon the same logic, or the experiments done by the Nazis to the Jews or the Soviets to the prisoners in the Gulag??

I am all for finding cures, however, within the debate of stem cell research, so much emphasis is placed on embryonic cells, yet their is just as much research regarding human stem cells actually bearing results.

As I initially said, there is a counter proposal in Congress to provide for a repository of stem cells, cells from placentas, embryos that have died in vivo, and that makes room for individuals who use in vitro fertilization to have the unused eggs used for scientific study.....

Again, politics is sometimes compromise. If the government were truly desiring to make this a reality, why would the Congress not jump on a compromise bill that will obtain the desired outcomes.....

When Reagan was elected he desired a 30% tax cut to be implemented over thre years, known as the 10-10-10, he settled for the 25%, known as the 5-10-10. This Congress is not looking for solutions, instead it places politics over accomplishments. That is why the Democrats are touting their success in the first 100 days, despite the fact that no major bill they have passed has become law.

dmk

Well, I think Bush set the bar when he made it an active and central part in his administration's policies to kill "terrorists" so that other people may live. You know, fight them there so we don't fight them here.

And the analogy is completely false. Those were experiments being conducted on live human beings...stem cell research is research being conducted using goo with no body, no thoughts, no conscious, and no "life" to take away in the first place. And doing such experiments can ultimately save countless lives of real people.

Little. Embryonic stem cells, as always, promise the best research material, results and the quickest ones. Limiting the research is almost like deciding to study space and planetary systems with binoculars instead of telescopes.

Yes, those should be used too.

They don't have a compromise. Bush is prepared to veto any bill that would provide federal funding to any kind of stem cell research.

The main reason this issue is sooooo huge is that certain people invested lots of their private funds into setting up to do embryonic stem cell research exclusively. And they want government to pay for it. Abortionists want government to pay for what they do as well.

It's the profit motive.

But there are clear unintended consequences of the government paying for these things, and the bulk of the population is smart enough to know that.

If you question the man on the street, you will find that most don't have a clue what a stem cell is, and many don't know what embryonic is. The vocabulary is above their level of education or indeed, interest level. But many will posit an opinion based on the advertising paid for by the companies that want the government to pay them!

I'm glad people are wanting to do cutting edge research, but the unintended consequences of such a scheme would be horrendous.

Stem cell research is ongoing and will continue....embryonic stem cell research is also ongoing, but not at the expense of the taxpayer.