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05-05-2007, 03:50 AM
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Country: Level up: 12%, 132 Points needed | | The WTC Twin Towers Were **Pulverized** on 9/11 See bottom of post for important links
======================================== It's an Urban Myth that the Twin Towers Collapsed. The Twin Towers Did Not Collapse,
They Were Pulverized Into Dust. Look at the following two photos:
Where's the hundreds of tons of steel beams? Each tower was a 1/4 mile tall!
On top of that, where's the thousands of desks, chairs, bookcases,
computers, xerox machines, water coolers, filing cabinets, doors, sinks, toilets, etc? source: Hunt the Rubble - Holy Grail 1 BEFORE:  AFTER:
======================================== On the afternoon of 9/11/01 the "rubble pile" left from WTC1 is essentially non-existent.
WTC7 can be seen in the distance, revealing the photo was taken before 5:20 PM that day.
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These documentary excerpts reveal only one filing cabinet to have been found.
No doors, no phones, no computers, and no doorknobs: Only Filing Cabinet Found doorknob.jpg
======================================== Examine the following three pictures.
Notice any similar characteristics? Mount Saint Helens - Erupting Volcano - Massive Energy Release: 
Nevada Desert - Nuclear Blast - Massive Energy Release: 
WTC - Massive Energy Release:
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The disintegration of the steel core caught on film: YouTube - Spire View
======================================== WTC 3: Huge gash. Building material "missing"
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WTC 4: Clean vertical cut on the north wing.
Building material on other side of cut "missing"
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WTC 5 / WTC 6: Round Cylindrical Holes. Building material "missing".
Mid-section of WTC 6 "missing"
======================================== What Toasted These Cars? See here for much more: Star Wars Beam Weapon 5 Cars along FDR drive were randomly toasted. These cars are at least 1/2 mile away from the WTC.
Note the waviness of the tire tracks. What happened? 
Did one car run under the other during the event or were they stacked after the event?
The marks in the pavement suggest they were pushed to the side of the road. 
What was this thing across the street? Was it a car? Was it a van?
What caused that line of burn marks on the hood of the car in the foreground on the right?
In the left foreground, the remains of a vehicle sit atop a white sedan.
Are we looking at the front or the back end?
It looks like the front end and if it is, its engine is missing.
We can see daylight through the wheel well. 
Why would the front of this fire truck wilt? 
The front half of car 2723 is toasted, but check out the new wax job on the back.
Notice the missing front door handle and the untouched back door handle. 
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Does This Look Like a "Collapse"?
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Dr Judy Wood, former Professor of Mechanical Engineering from Clemson University,
files official Request for Correction (RFC) with the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST)
citing fraud and deception in the 9/11 NIST Report.
Dr Wood is represented by attorney Jerry Leaphart.
See her website for her paper co-written with Dr Morgan Reynolds entitled
"Star Wars Directed-Energy Weapons (DEW)": www.drjudywood.com They show clear evidence that the World Trade Center was destroyed by a Directed Energy Weapon (DEW). Download Dr Wood's latest radio interview (May 2, 2007) where she details her latest research
"DEW Sponsors and Department of Defense Contractors": 9/11 Issues
Read through the RFC information in the "news" section and learn that NIST contracted with
Applied Research Associates (ARA) for the 9/11 NIST report.
Not only is ARA a manufacturer of directed-energy weapon technology,
but are also a founding sponsor of Directed Energy Professional Society (DEPS).
DEPS, founded in 1999, put out their first newsletter one year before 9/11.
An excerpt from this newsletter is as follows: "Lasers in space, lasers in the stratosphere, lasers
on and over the battlefield - we're at the
beginning of an evolutionary new wave of
weaponry." Videos:
Judy Wood at Cooper Union, NYC
September 10, 2006 Judy Wood at Cooper Union - Google Video
Judy Wood speaking at the forum 9/11 Search for Truth in Seattle
October 28, 2006 Judy Wood - 9/11 Search for Truth - Google Video For the Best in Uncensored 9/11 Research: 9/11 Researchers | Open Resource for 9/11 Researchers
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05-06-2007, 04:18 PM
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__________________ Dreaming dreams no mortal ever dared to dream before Music is essentially useless, as is life: but both have an ideal extension which lends utility to its conditions -George Santayana If we don't believe in free expression for people we despise, we don't believe in it at all -Noam Chomsky The only real radicalism in our time will come as it always has, from people who insist on thinking for themselves and who reject party-mindedness -Christopher Hitchens From Rosemont, Illinois The Cavaliers |
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05-09-2007, 06:56 AM
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Country: Level up: 12%, 132 Points needed | | Here are two letters from Dr Jones to Dr Wood, and two responses from Wood to Jones.
As you can see, Jones (who has ties to Los Alamos) is still trying to discredit Dr Wood and her WTC directed energy weapon theory, despite all the new information coming out! Jones Response1 Jones Response2 |
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05-09-2007, 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by CB_Brooklyn Does This Look Like a "Collapse"? |
Ah, yes.
The majority of the towers was space. Empty space. you know, for walking around and breathing and such. Towers had a few sub basements. All that mass going down real fast like tends to coma bit. I really have no idea where you are coming from. But your fun to watch.
Tell me in your own words exactly how YOU think the towers collapsed then I can show you the error of your ways. |
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05-09-2007, 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by teacher Ah, yes.
The majority of the towers was space. Empty space. you know, for walking around and breathing and such. Towers had a few sub basements. All that mass going down real fast like tends to coma bit. I really have no idea where you are coming from. But your fun to watch.
Tell me in your own words exactly how YOU think the towers collapsed then I can show you the error of your ways. |
What's fun for me is to watch people like you who think you know everything when you don't know anything!
You can't just make a "claim" that 90% was air. Show the evidence of the building materials.
No debris in subbasements:
PATH train was not crushed:
Mall (1st subbasement) not crushed (photos filed 9/19/01):
Empty hole in subbasement under WTC 2 (photo filed 9/18/01):
Photos sourced from Drs Wood/Reynolds' "Star Wars Beam Weapon" paper: Star Wars Beam Weapon 1
The towers did NOT "collapse". |
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05-10-2007, 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by CB_Brooklyn What's fun for me is to watch people like you who think you know everything when you don't know anything! | You should do your homework first.
I did structural rigging for a job. I played with explosives in the Army. I weld, cut and fabricate steel. I'm a certified fire alarm tech in the state of Florida.
On another web site I own this topic. I go into huge detail on the how and why the WTC COLLAPSED. I have 286 posts on a thread with 20,000 views. I challenge them to find one (1) ONE flaw in my explanation. Not one yet.
This is the thread... September 11th conspiracy theories - Debate Politics Forums
I'm not typing that all over agian, might copy/paste some to here though. I friggin dare you to go read that and copy/paste to here ONE flaw. I'll answer here. I can't stand you wing nuts, you disease spreads, which reminds me, I need some protection from the likes of you...
About your pictures, weak, in all the pictures there is debri, just not in the foreground of THAT picture. All the debri was taken to a NJ landfill and recycled, but 7 years later you want to know where the debi is?
Reynalds? Took him apart two years ago. It's in that thread.
Get ready genius, you time with this is short.
this is my first post on the topic at that site...
"Class in Session".
Begin:
We all saw a large fuel laden plane fly into a tower. It is not hard to imagine the rest. Class class shut up thank you. The Towers moved their structural steel normally placed from the core to the face all to the face to provide large column free spaces. To do this the floors were formed of long metal trusses from the core to the face. Long SPAN. Brainwashed monsters flew a plane into a tower. The mass destroyed many face columns before ripping a floors high, wingspan wide, path of sprinkler head shredding, fire wall penetrating, fire retardant removing, giant flue through our nations pride. Parts went clean through to set other buildings on fire. It is truly horrible to think the dispersion of the full tank's jet fuel through this swath. But first Mass x Speed = Force and the force of impact is spread with a bulge opposite of impact and the shock wave going up and down. Kinetic energy is absorbed by the swaying of the building. A building designed to withstand the impact of a plane stands. Fire. At the very least a large plane shaped area of sprinkler heads have been shredded. Instead of spraying water everywhere, just in one spot then straight down. Not a lot of coverage for the jet fuel infernal that starts. Have you ever stood on a ladder and had to remove a small piece of sprayed on fire retardant on structural steel to give good purchase for a mechanical fastener? I have. I used a small flat head screwdriver. I think as all the debris of the plane was shredded by the structural steel it also stripped the sprayed on fire retardant while being shredded. Have you ever stopped to notice the plasma over a puddle your welding? Do you take time to make yourself notice that tiny inferno while cutting a straight line through 1" steel with an oxygen/acetylene torch? Do you have any concept of the riddle of steel? Many have heated metal to make it easier to shape. These long spans between core and face are being heated over their about 1000 degrees Fahrenheit temperature where it loses rigidity. Heated spans sag like a BBQ grill. Sagging trusses increase pressure on truss to face anchor bolts above shear strength and fail. Young man give me that knife. Thank You. Domino. Floor falls on floor unable to bear weight of above falling floors weight and its own with its own sagging. Pancake. Can you imagine the mix of fault, tamper, alarm and normal signals the lower floors received and what the ensuing outputs did? Did any elevator go to where it should? Did a pathway of dampers fail and force toxic smoke to a area unaffected? No I will not view more than the first 2 minutes of that 911 garbage by he who remains unnamed. Facts? You saw the tape. See how hard it is to bend a fork then heat in middle and try. Homer say "Doh". Plane's mass exposes too great a surface area of structural steel to plane's fuel fed flames causing sag of trusses due to high temperature weakened steel leading to truss to face anchor bolt shear strength excision. What's my point? That 911 tape author is either trying to make money or actually going out of his way to lie to change one's perception of the truth. If the later then that is a bad person. Who would do such a thing? My Honorably Discharged self would like to give him the what for. They did it. Class dismissed.
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05-10-2007, 02:36 PM
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Many years ago the first time I thought through this visualization, I had that same feeling as when I first saw film of a plane hitting a tower. That breath thing and thought or uttered "Oh my God". Imagine your some Joe in his chair just above impact. Do you hear or feel it first? Then you move perpendicular to the surface of the earth faster than you ever had, all these years in this Tower. Maybe for an instant it's surreal before reality hits. Myself? Run, down, fast, untill something else intrudes. But he died in his fear and terror. Just what they want. So we get away with it in Isreal why not try US? Think they. They hoped to fell a tower the first time with the Impeachee. Some Cruise missles and bombs. Acceptable response. Next try suceeds. Fade to that exquisit moment when Bugs says "You know, this means war". |
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05-10-2007, 02:41 PM
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You don't answer the beating I gave, you just go...
"Well, what about this then".
Then I beat that down, then...
"Well, what about this then".
lather, rinse, repeat.
This how it's gonna here too?
(IMG: http://wtc7.net/docs/streamers.jpg)
Some where on that link a TFH (tin foil hatter) sent me is some more garbage I tore a new one for.
A dense flaming piece of wreckage shoots through the big tower to land inside #7 on a lower floor. There WILL be a test on this. Imagine a sprinkler system like a tree. On a lower floor is something called a fire pump. Water does not magically flow up it needs to be forced through ever smaller growing pipes as it goes up. The fire pump forces water at great pressure through at first large pipes called risers. Taps from risers spread out to smaller pipes at each floor to feed sprinkler heads. The fire pump is not on all the time or its pressure would cause pipes or heads to eventually fail thus necessitating the water to be shut off and the call for a guy with a mop to go out. The pump is turned on by an initiating device. A smoke detector, pull station or any number of fire devices. Now the pump does keep some pressure in the pipes at all times. Say a sprinkler head is set of somewhere. Water flows out that head. In sprinkler pipes is a device called a flow switch. It senses water flowing through the pipe. It also is an initiating device. All these initiating devices are connected to a fire control panel (FCP). The FCP sends a signal to the fire pump relay which turns the fire pump on full bore. This signal goes over a pair of 16 guage wires (on an addressable FCP) to the fire pump relay. Now back to our flaming debris. Say this piece cuts the wire going to the fire pump. Now none of the sprinklers in the entire FRIGGIN building work. The fire in#7 burned for 7 hours. The fact that it burned for 7 hours tells me the sprinkler system is not working. I also saw somewhere in your little site that they said the steel then must have magically turned to jelly for the structural integrity to fail. They said this snidely. What those dumb asses don't realize is that is exactly what happened. All structural steel on modern buildings has some sort of fire RETARDANT. Not fire proofing. This gives it a fire rating. So much time at such a temperature before it fails. This gives time for evacuation (the occupants being made aware by notification devices. Horns, strobes, voice evac ect.) and for the fire department to come put out the fire before failure of fire retardant.Hang onto your knickers and think harder now. The big towers fire retardant was stripped away by the fast moving debris exposing steel right away to high temperatures causing steel to lose its rigidity quickly causing the collapse. #7 kept its retardant but with sprinklers not working the fires kept on bringing us to the temperature/time equation. 7 hours that building stood. If the F.D. was not so busy with the big towers this would be plenty of time to extinguish these fires. But alas those heroes were a tad busy. [Side note. You friggin piece of feces how dare you suggest our own government would wontonly kill its own citizens, police, and firefighters for what, to stoke the coffers of the military industrial complex I suppose you might say. Does your blind hatred of Bush so addle your brain that logic becomes ungraspable, making you clutch at any feeble straw to validate you allconsuming ire? But I digress]. So that LARGE fire on the lower floors had its time to weaken the steel. Just one lower floor collapsing sets into motion all that static kinetic energy. Unstoppable. That is exactly why your silly little videos show the whole building come down together. The very video you think proves your silly theory exposes the truth. You would have been better off not pointing me in that direction. Now I know more. Teacher HAS learned. To the embarrassment of the foil hat crowd. Now it is preponderant upon you to face facts or continue wandering through life with your blinders on and fingers in your ears murmuring "I hate Bush. I hate Bush". To those of you with any sense asking why I bother with this crowd its because this is serious business. BS like this draws people away from the fact that those terrorists did this and will not stop ever unless the full force and intellect of the U.S.A. bears down on them with our best and brightest. 20 years ago our biggest problem was the red menace. Well our great nation took care of that to the betterment of the ENTIRE FRIGGIN WORLD. We surely can take care of this terrorist problem but this crowd makes it that much more difficult. An unnecessary distraction to those who do good. We can not let incorrect BS sway the minds of the easily fooled deter our leaders from what must be done. Not staying this course will doubtless eventually lead to a nuke in our back yard. That is an "I told you so" I can go without uttering. Class dismissed. |
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05-10-2007, 02:44 PM
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That is because this was a giant event. Other fires were responded to in a timely fashion with due attention to the fire. One of your sites stated the fires burned for seven hours. The F.D. was overwelmed. I salute these heroes. A little fire long annatended can cause huge damage. You say later in your post if I'm too lazy. Before responded to your post I did research (I typed WTC#7 collapse on a search engine) and viewed a still such as seen at (wtc7.0catch.com) see the 16th still down. It shows a large amount of smoke coming from a low floor. That, sir, be no small fire. That amount of smoke does not seem idicative of a small and isolated fire on the 7th or 11th floor. I read your entire post. From your post it seems you did not read all of mine. Ever read Ludlum? Sorry to say but it is like that out there. How about this. In the ensuing bedlam of the towers impact a ready group or individual was ready in or near to #7. These guys pulled the plane thing off. Never assume for a minute that they don't have the knowledge (learned in our very own educational system thank you. Ah, the price of freedom) or the will. Anyway in the chaos it would be a simple thing to disable the FACP (Fire Alarm Control Panel) thus disableing the sprinkler system. Ignite a incenderary device at a strategic point. This point could be obtained with blue prints through the freedom of information act or a timely bribe to some city clerk. So now without any piece of wreckage from the planes hitting #7 we have a fire in #7 with the fire suppression system compromised. Can you like me read blueprints? With such the emporer has no clothes. Carte blanche. These savages had buku time to think of these things. Me, it comes as I type. So a building not touched by the planes collapses thus distracting the foil hat crowd with the cries of "conspiracy" and distracting your otherwise sensible minds to utter "black ops". (he he sorry private inside joke, can't extrapolate I signed a document). Ever seen Iraq's foriegn minister Teriq Azziz on Meet the Press? (I hear he is now singing like a canary). He had that look into the camera, eyes unblinking, hands folded, not giving anything up better than any, while telling lies, with the exception of Leon Paneta. If I'm not mistaken they teach that at Ft. Huachuka. Anyhow being that they know people like you exist in this country they have a ready made flock of sheep all to willing to cry "black ops" thus deflecting your maybe normaly patriotic minds to the cry of "Bush did it". The cold war DID train many to the concept of disinformation, subterfuge, counterintelligence, using the weak minded pawns of an established nation to the ends that you yourself speak to. All without your realization you have been played. Black ops my freind? Not so. Maybe you have been played exactly as how they intended. I would be interested to know whether you ever raised your right hand and swore allegance to this country as I have. I did NOT take it lightly. I STILL DON'T. These people use our very freedom, our very uncompromising access to information, our tendency to view our own government as the bad guys, against us. You are the exact thing they hoped to acomplish. Shame. Have you served in our great military? Have you ever lived in another country thus giving you something firsthand to compare against? If not then I post against the uneducated. If so then what happened? if you think these things then you are a....bet you thought I was gonna go there eh vauge? 7 fell because of unattended fires. Simple. My long wandering paragraph speaks to your following drivel. |
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05-10-2007, 02:48 PM
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This guy Gary Ryan is an employee but on this site not representing Underwriters Laboratory. UL. I've had to comply with UL specifications installing fire alarms in hospitals and burglar alarms in banks. UL is tight. So this GUY who works at UL by him self quotes some other GUY who says the temperature inside the towers did not exceed 500 degrees Fahrenheit. Think about it Alan. Can you look yourself in the mirror and say those fires were no hotter than your oven when your cooking a pizza? The core to face trusses were stripped of their fire retardant. Two 3/4" bolts secured truss to core collum. Two 5/8" bolts secured the truss to exterior collum. Sagging trusses exceeded the shear strength of the 5/8" bolts. Done. What friggin part of that don't you understand. This Gary Ryan is just some dumb *** who wrote someone a letter that got posted on foil hats-r-us web site. (worn outside upsidedown thank you). The question you now have to ask yourself Alan is was the temperature in the towers only 500 degrees Fahrenheit? All our posts have narrowed it down to this question. Well? 500 degrees. Alan? Think now. 500. Brass tack time. Money where your mouth is. 500? For all the marbles. 500. It's that simple. Yes or no. Dare ya. At least biblemark I think it was who first dragged this nonsense by me, had the sense and grace to not keep saying stupid things. You get your info from some guy who works at UL. I get mine (some little tidbits I feed you anyway) is the head architect for the towers. This is the guy whose drawings they went by to build the things. Him vs. some GUY. Alan. Come on. Pull yourself up bro. Cast off the tin foil yoke. Shrug off the weight of paranoia. Join us in the world of science and logic bro. We are here to help you. 500 degrees. Pizza. Think about it. We'll be here for you. |
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