Defending the Truth

It does not add up.1+1=2 not 5.You make leaps of judgement based on theory and groundless,baseless accusations based on your hatred of a man you have never met.You are nothing if not predictable,well maybe pathetic.
The other skyscrapers did not have jet fuel fuelling the fire.Nor did they have support beams cut by the impact of a fucking plane filled with innocent fucking people.The beams below were not designed to take the kind of pressure delivered in an instant like the collaose of the upper floors.You can stand on a chair that is 25 years old,but if you jump on that same chair ,you still have the same weight on the chair but coming down with much more force and you will probably break that chair.
I said I don't know anything about WTC 7 so I cannot and will not comment on it.
All of our presidents were male,does that mean there is a conspiracy against women?
The only addition I see in your posts are
Theory+ConjecturexHatred=Crackpot

>The other skyscrapers did not have jet fuel fuelling the fire.Nor did they >have support beams cut by the impact of a fucking plane filled with >innocent fucking people.

Part of the problem is that people (including engineers) often confuse temperature and heat. While they are related, they are not the same. Thermodynamically, the heat contained in a material is related to the temperature through the heat capacity and the density (or mass). Temperature is defined as an intensive property, meaning that it does not vary with the quantity of material, while the heat is an extensive property, which does vary with the amount of material. One way to distinguish the two is to note that if a second log is added to the fireplace, the temperature does not double; it stays roughly the same, but the size of the fire or the length of time the fire burns, or a combination of the two, doubles. Thus, the fact that there were 90,000 L of jet fuel on a few floors of the WTC does not mean that this was an unusually hot fire. The temperature of the fire at the WTC was not unusual, and it was most definitely not capable of melting steel.


There are many red flags in the official story of September 11th that passed right by the vast majority of people. Not the least is that the official story was so quick to emerge. Within hours of the attack Osama bin Laden was presented as the prime suspect. His picture was repeatedly shown on TV alongside images of the devastation in Lower Manhattan, a technique known as Pavlovian conditioning. A list of most of the hijackers was presented within a day of the attack. Mohammed Atta was presented as the ringleader within hours. The curious building "collapses" in Manhattan were immediately claimed to be inevitable. The "case closed" technical paper about the building collapses was published on September 13th, two days after the attack.

Some of the other red flags include:

The hijacked flights all flew long routes taking them far from their targets exposing them to certain interception given standard operating procedures.
The towering infernos were said to burn with the heat of nuclear power plants, despite sooty black smoke and few visible flames.
The building collapses were presented as inevitable, even though such behavior was unheard of in steel structures.
Cellphones were said to have been used to make numerous calls from Flight 93, even though cell phones don't work from aircraft in normal flight.
Flight 93 was confidently portrayed as a crash due to a struggle, despite strong evidence it was shot down.
An extensive paper trail of the hijackers was found within hours of the attack. even though the same people had supposedly eluded authorities for years.
The same hijackers who pulled off aerobatic maneuvers with large jets were flight school flunkies who had never flown jets.
The FBI claimed that the passport from one of Flight 11's hijackers was found blocks from the towers (when the only other parts of the jetliner that penetrated the tower were a few pieces of landing gear).
Several hijackers turned up alive after the attack.
1000 bodies vanished at Ground Zero, despite DNA identification procedures that could identify individuals from small fragments of bodies.
Flight 77 vanished at the pentagon, the 80 tons of aluminum, steel and bodies supposedly burning up.
The supposedly fanatically devout Muslim hijackers were fond of strip bars.
The video of Osama bin Laden that has him taking credit for the attack doesn't even look like him.


It just doesn't add up to me.

Bush = Fascist
http://www.oldamericancentury.org/14pts.htm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/3958665.stm

http://www.truthout.org/docs_05/011905D.shtml

Arite I didn't read much of the responses to this video yet but after watching this...what a big pile of shit. I can't believe someone would even think that 9/11 was an inside job.

When they were talking about the building having an explosion like reaction..well what the fuck happens when you build up matter...it gets heavier and heavier and more compact which would crush each floor as it gets larger and larger on it's downward fall. COMMON SENSE. Wow they must of had a great time making this video getting the rock music going in the background and interviewing dumb fucks.

That video just made me sick.

Oh and yes other skyscrapers have been on fire for hours...but were plains flown right into them??My God how brainwashed can you be? Get off that refer.

Not much of a response. Why has no other skyscraper fire brought down a building? Plane fuel does not raise the temperature of fire. How did WTC 7 fall in on itself? Why were the planes allowed to venture that far off course without being intercepted? How was the connection to Bin Laden made within hours? Where is the reckage of the pentagram attack?

The official story just doesn't add up to me.

And this is what Bush said about the WTC first tower attack:

"And I was sitting outside the classroom waiting to go in, and I saw an airplane hit the tower -- the TV was obviously on, and I use to fly myself, and I said, "There's one terrible pilot." And I said, "It must have been a horrible accident."

Source= http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP.../04/se.04.html


How the hell did he see the first plane hit? It wasn't on tv.

Nothing makes much sense to you.

Again, airplanes flown right into the frame of a building. What happens when you have tons and tons of weight being pushed down on a slightly bent frame. The frame bends even more...slowly...untill it cannot handle anymore. (Common Sense)

The building did store 36,000 gallons of diesel fuel on the roof to power generators. What happens when you combine fire and fuel. Boom. Now how it happened where it looked like a controlled demolition...I don't know. Since it did fall like a controlled demolition, it helps the anti-american people add to there hypothesis that 9/11 was an inside job.

Right when that happened the first person that came to my mind was Bin Laden. Why don't you consider the chances we had to kill him back in the 90's when Dick Morris considered him as a high threat? We knew about Bin Laden and his hatred towards americans.

So you conclude it was an inside job.

Hevusa you agree with every person who thinks we are terrorists by grabbing pictures to make it look like our nations capital is based designed to support satan, (if you look at the photo, turn it upside down and extend that blue line to the jefferson memorial...you get a cross). It's easy to grab a photo of a cross or the star of david, turn it upside down and make it look like satan symbols. You also think 9/11 was an inside job to Bush can go over in Iraq and fight his war. I don't know how but I guess this is what happens if your candidate did not win the election.

No one answered why WTC7 fell like it was planned. It's all assumptions that you all took. Hevusa has a point here and I think there is more research that has to be done.

George Washington, who was grand master of his masonic lodge in VA commissioned Pierre L'Enfant to design Washington D.C. There is no question about the masonic symbology Washington D.C. possesses. The masonic compass can clearly be seen around the capital building. And it is no mistake that the capital building, Washington monument, and the masonic temple make a perfect 90 degree angle. 16th street is the longest, straightest road in America because masons believe that the longer that road is straight the greater their power. It dead ends into the White House. A corner of the pentagon points directly at the White House as well. All very carefully planned.

Here is a picture of Washington laying the cornerstone for the captial building. The painting (or at least a copy of it) resides in the masonic temple 13 blocks north of the White House:

Big deal if Washimgto was a Mason.Not everything is is connected to form a conspiracy.You take isolated events years apart and try to add them up to form a secret shadow government that is responsible for every evil known to man.
You say the introduction of jet fuel will not raise the temperature of a fire.Try to bend steel using a candle,then a propane torch,then use an oxyacetalene torch.Which one works?Different materials wil burn with different intensity and temperature.The flame of an oxyacetalene torch produces a much higher temperature than a propane torch.
My first thought when it became known that it was airliners running into the buildings was Bin Laden.I have watched that SOB declare war on the US at least 4 times since the early 90's and nothing was done back then to stop him.You also forget that he has taken credit for the attack.Or were his words translated wrong for the whole world to hear.

It is a big deal that Washington was a mason. When such a large portion of the leaders of the free world have been masons it is more than coincidence. Not to mention the head of the CIA, FBI and the formation of our system of laws. Conspiracy or not, this should be common knowledge for all Americans and the simple fact is that it is not. Most don't even know about the strange patterns in our nations capital. When the masons formed our system of government they planned it so power would bounce back and forth between the two parties (rep, dem) so power would remain centralized, yet make it seem like it was actually the will of the people being served.

The above still doesn't change the fact that no matter how much jet fuel you add to the mix it still couldn't cause the amount of heat necessary to bend steal.

As far as Bin Laden is concerned a relationship is well documented between Laden and the US when Russia was trying to invade Afghanistan in the late 80's. If you step outside your bubble of saftey for just a moment Duncanmac, and imagine that your home country might not have pure interests at heart, why couldn't Bin Laden have been part of the plan? The Bush family obviously flew all the Bin Laden's to saftey as soon as 9/11 happened... without even being questioned.

Nothing about 9/11 followed standard procedure, from a lack of fighter pilots being scrambled to the Bin Laden family being escorted out of the country without so much as a question being asked.