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Old 10-04-2007, 01:42 PM   #151 (permalink)
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This is new.

Look at the object that falls from the astronauts backpack at the 50 second mark in this video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AK2Fy85VyRg

It falls faster than the hammer and the feather in this clip.
http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a15/a15v_1672206.mpg

Even the people at Clavius are having a hard time explaining this one.
ApolloHoax.net - Fast falling object from astronaut's back
Old 10-04-2007, 01:59 PM   #152 (permalink)
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Oh oh. Looks like the jig is up. Then I watched the video...and the jig came back down. LOL

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Old 10-05-2007, 06:57 AM   #153 (permalink)
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I never saw anything about multiple shadows.



Apparently your claim that you read them all may be slightly inacurate.

Award winning British photographer David Persey is convinced the pictures are fake. His astonishing findings are explained alongside the pictures on these pages, but the basic points are as follows: The shadows could only have been created with multiple light sources and,in particular, powerful spotlights. But the only light source on the Moon was the sun.
The American flag and the words "United States" are always Brightly lit, even when everything around is in shadow. Not one still picture matches the film footage, yet NASA claims both were shot at the same time.
The pictures are so perfect, each one would have taken a slick advertising agency hours to put them together. But the astronauts managed it repeatedly. David Persey believes the mistakes were deliberate, left there by "whistle blowers" who were keen for the truth to one day get out.
If Persey is right and the pictures are fake, then we've only NASA's word that man ever went to the Moon. And, asks Rene, "Why would anyone fake pictures of an event that actually happened?"
The questions don't stop there. Outer space is awash with deadly radiation that emanates from solar flares firing out from the sun. Standard astronauts orbiting earth in near space, like those who recently fixed the Hubble telescope, are protected by the earth's Van Allen belt. But the Moon is to 240,000 miles distant, way outside this safe band. And, during the Apollo flights, astronomical data shows there were no less than 1,485 such flares.
John Mauldin, a physicist who works for NASA, once said shielding at least two meters thick would be needed. Yet the walls of the Lunar Landers which took astronauts from the spaceship to the moons surface were, said NASA, about the thickness of heavy duty aluminum foil.
How could that stop this deadly radiation? And if the astronauts were protected by their space suits, why didn't rescue workers use such protective gear at the Chernobyl meltdown, which released only a fraction of the dose astronauts would encounter? Not one Apollo astronaut ever contracted cancer - not even the Apollo 16 crew who were on their way to the Moon when a big flare started. "They should have been fried", says Rene.


Furthermore, every Apollo mission before number 11 (the first to the Moon) was plagued with around 20,000 defects a-piece. Yet, with the exception of Apollo 13, NASA claims there wasn't one major technical problem on any of their Moon missions. Just one effect could have blown the whole thing. "The odds against these are so unlikely that God must have been the co-pilot," says Rene.
Several years after NASA claimed its first Moon landing, Buzz Aldrin "the second man on the Moon" was asked at a banquet what it felt like to step on to the lunar surface. Aldrin staggered to his feet and left the room crying uncontrollably. It would not be the last time he did this. "It strikes me he's suffering from trying to live out a very big lie," says Rene. Aldrin may also fear for his life.
Virgil Grissom, a NASA astronaut who baited the Apollo program, was due to pilot Apollo 1 as part of the landings build up. In January 1967, he hung a lemon on his Apollo capsule (in the US, unroadworthy cars are called lemons) and told his wife Betty: "If there is ever a serious accident in the space program, it's likely to be me."
Nobody knows what fuelled his fears, but by the end of the month he and his two co-pilots were dead, burnt to death during a test run when their capsule, pumped full of high pressure pure oxygen, exploded.
Scientists couldn't believe NASA's carelessness - even a chemistry students in high school know high pressure oxygen is extremely explosive. In fact, before the first manned Apollo fight even cleared the launch pad, a total of 11 would be astronauts were dead. Apart from the three who were incinerated, seven died in plane crashes and one in a car smash. Now this is
a spectacular accident rate.
"One wonders if these 'accidents' weren't NASA's way of correcting mistakes," says Rene. "Of saying that some of these men didn't have the sort of 'right stuff' they were looking."
NASA wont respond to any of these claims, their press office will only say that the Moon landings happened and the pictures are real. But a NASA public affairs officer called Julian Scheer once delighted 200 guests at a private party with footage of astronauts apparently on a landscape. It had been made on a mission film set and was identical to what NASA claimed was they real lunar landscape. "The purpose of this film," Scheer told the enthralled group, "is to indicate that you really can fake things on the ground, almost to the point of deception." He then invited his audience to "Come to your own decision about whether or not man actually did walk on the Moon."
A sudden attack of honesty? You bet, says Rene, who claims the only real thing about the Apollo missions were the lift offs. "The astronauts simply have to be on board," he says, "in case the rocket exploded. It was the easiest way to ensure NASA wasn't left with three astronauts who ought to be dead." he claims, adding that they came down a day or so later, out of the
public eye (global surveillance wasn't what it is now) and into the safe hands of NASA officials, who whisked them off to prepare for the big day a week later.
And now NASA is planning another giant step - Project Outreach, a 1 trillion dollar manned mission to Mars. "Think what they'll be able to mock up with today's computer graphics," says Rene Chillingly. "Special effects was in its infancy in the 60s. This time round will have no way of determining the truth."
9 SPACE ODDITIES:
1. Apollo 14 astronaut Allen Shepard played golf on the Moon. In front of a worldwide TV audience, Mission Control teased him about slicing the ball to the right. Yet a slice is caused by uneven air flow over the ball. The Moon has no atmosphere and no air.
2. A camera panned upwards to catch Apollo 16's Lunar Landerlifting off the Moon. Who did the filming?
3. One NASA picture from Apollo 11 is looking up at Neil Armstrong about to take his giant step for mankind. The photographer must have been lying on the planet surface. If Armstrong was the first man on the Moon, then who took the shot?
4. The pressure inside a space suit was greater than inside a football. The astronauts should have been puffed out like the Michelin Man, but were seen freely bending their joints.
5. The Moon landings took place during the Cold War. Why didn't America make a signal on the moon that could be seen from earth? The PR would have been phenomenal and it could have been easily done with magnesium flares.
6. Text from pictures in the article said that only two men walked on the Moon during the Apollo 12 mission. Yet the astronaut reflected in the visor has no camera. Who took the shot?
7. The flags shadow goes behind the rock so doesn't match the dark line in the foreground, which looks like a line cord. So the shadow to the lower right of the spaceman must be the flag. Where is his shadow? And why is the flag fluttering if there is no air or wind on the moon?
8. How can the flag be brightly lit when its side is to the light? And where, in all of these shots, are the stars?
9. The Lander weighed 17 tons yet the astronauts feet seem to have made a bigger dent in the dust. The powerful booster rocket at the base of the Lunar Lander was fired to slow descent to the moons service. Yet it has left no traces of blasting on the dust underneath. It should have created a small crater, yet the booster looks like it's never been fired.

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(Just a portion of the info. at the site, linked in the OP.)

Was The Apollo Moon Landing Fake?

Your site and your arguments are failing to even attempt to debunk alot of this and the reflective light theory from the surroundings don't cover it, concerning that portion.
I wasn't surprised to see that 90% of the backing photographic images, that were on the site, when I first started this thread, have been removed. Seem those pictures must be owned by someone who doesn't want that site to have such good evidence.
Hmmm, I wonder who that someone could be.
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Old 10-05-2007, 07:11 AM   #154 (permalink)
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Tyreay, I refuse to argue with you about this anymore, as you seem to be incapable of reading any sites other then conspiracy sites.
Old 10-05-2007, 07:52 AM   #155 (permalink)
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Tyreay, I refuse to argue with you about this anymore, as you seem to be incapable of reading any sites other then conspiracy sites.
What are your comments on post #151?
(Faked moon landing?)http://www.defendingthetruth.com/conspiracy-theories/1186-faked-moon-landing-16.html#post142648
Old 10-05-2007, 08:32 AM   #156 (permalink)
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Haven't had time to look at it.

Don't have sound on my computer at work, and don't have time to be on the computer at night.
Old 10-05-2007, 09:46 AM   #157 (permalink)
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Haven't had time to look at it.

Don't have sound on my computer at work, and don't have time to be on the computer at night.
Work??!!! What's that? I'm ready for my son to start regular school so I can get a part time job or something. I'm ready to interact with live adults again. I've seen all the Jimmy Neutron, Spongebob, Fairly Oddparents, and Kappa Mikey I can stand. And besides, the new Nickelodeon cartoons all suck. I gotta get outta there.
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I've seen all the Jimmy Neutron, Spongebob, Fairly Oddparents, and Kappa Mikey I can stand. And besides, the new Nickelodeon cartoons all suck.
If you ask me, nothing beats the good old Warner Brothers "Looney Tunes" cartoons!



(I've got their 3 DVD volumes...which have tons of great stuff on them!)
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If you ask me, nothing beats the good old Warner Brothers "Looney Tunes" cartoons!



(I've got their 3 DVD volumes...which have tons of great stuff on them!)
I know what you mean. But I've been re-educated though. My son and I tried to watch those retro toons on the Dish but they got repetitive and boring and VIOLENT!!! When it comes to entertainment value, the new cartoons have it over the old ones. The old ones seem to be all about shoot em up. Except for Popeye which was about beat em up.
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Haven't had time to look at it.

Don't have sound on my computer at work, and don't have time to be on the computer at night.
You don't need sound. Just look at the way the object falls from the astronaut's backpack and compare it to the way the hammar and feather fall.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AK2Fy85VyRg
http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a15/a15v_1672206.mpg
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