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03-14-2008, 02:36 PM
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Level up: 17%, 84 Points needed | | This video of the flag moving renders all the stuff you posted moot.
At the 2 minute 35 second mark of the video the flag is still. When the astronaut goes past it, it starts to move.
There's an analysis of it here at the 3 minute 5 second mark.
The majority of people not believing the landings were faked doesn't mean anything. The majority of Europeans used to believe the earth was flat. Those telescope operators could very well have been lying because they were in on the conspiracy.
We have to look at the video evidence as there are plausible alternative scenarios for stuff like you people are posting. |
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03-14-2008, 03:02 PM
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Points: 13,970, Level: 76 | Level up: 77%, 80 Points needed | | Scotty: one minute you are here, the next minute you beam yourself away from DTT as if you were the Borg. Tell me that it is not true.
I don't believe any of your posts, so your messages don't mean anything.
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03-14-2008, 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by highway80west Scotty: one minute you are here, the next you beam yourself away from DTT. Tell me that it is not true.
I don't believe any of your posts, so your messages don't mean anything. | Indeed they are worthless. Luckily such idiocy remains in the single digits as a percentage of the population.
If you must, take the time to watch the video. Watch the dust kicked up by the astronaut's feet. Somehow, NASA faking this video went through the trouble to get dust to act only as if it were in a atmosphere-less low-gravity environment, but failed to fix the 'waving flag' issue. The simple matter of fact is, he has no idea how that flag began moving. In a moon environment, with a lack of air and therefore lack of air-resistance/friction, things continue moving for a while as according to Newton's first law.
What Scott fails to mention is that the flag remains dead-still for well over thirty minutes of footage, even when astronauts are moving around it.
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03-14-2008, 03:41 PM
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03-14-2008, 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Katczinsky Indeed they are worthless. Luckily such idiocy remains in the single digits as a percentage of the population.
If you must, take the time to watch the video. Watch the dust kicked up by the astronaut's feet. Somehow, NASA faking this video went through the trouble to get dust to act only as if it were in a atmosphere-less low-gravity environment, but failed to fix the 'waving flag' issue. The simple matter of fact is, he has no idea how that flag began moving. In a moon environment, with a lack of air and therefore lack of air-resistance/friction, things continue moving for a while as according to Newton's first law.
What Scott fails to mention is that the flag remains dead-still for well over thirty minutes of footage, even when astronauts are moving around it. | Capricorn One - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Do you really think that the fake moon landing lead to this making of Capricorn One?
You don't know that the moon's gravity is 1/6 that of earth's????????
Would you be the kind of person to go up to Neil Armstrong, Edwin Aldrin, David Scott, Charles Duke, Jr., and other living astronaut moonwalkers and tell them that you did not believe that they walked on the moon?
If they tell you that they did, would you and that Scott poster call them liars?
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03-14-2008, 04:58 PM
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03-14-2008, 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by highway80west Capricorn One - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Do you really think that the fake moon landing lead to this making of Capricorn One?
You don't know that the moon's gravity is 1/6 that of earth's????????
Would you be the kind of person to go up to Neil Armstrong, Edwin Aldrin, David Scott, Charles Duke, Jr., and other living astronaut moonwalkers and tell them that you did not believe that they walked on the moon?
If they tell you that they did, would you and that Scott poster call them liars? | What are you insinuating??
I was arguing against Scott's idiocy, not an accessory to it.
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03-14-2008, 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Katczinsky What are you insinuating??
I was arguing against Scott's idiocy, not an accessory to it. | Oh, then my mistake. I don't know why Mr. Scott thinks it is all a fake. I don't. One minute he comes out of slipstream, quickly posts his trash, then disappears into the next galaxy.
Oh well. I apologize to you. Thanks for helping me out. I guess I just overreacted too bad against you. 
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03-15-2008, 12:50 AM
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Originally Posted by highway80west Oh, then my mistake. I don't know why Mr. Scott thinks it is all a fake. I don't. One minute he comes out of slipstream, quickly posts his trash, then disappears into the next galaxy.
Oh well. I apologize to you. Thanks for helping me out. I guess I just overreacted too bad against you.  | Well, in retrospect, after rereading my post, I can see how the sarcastic-in-places tone can be misconstrued. It's hard to express oneself in an online forum.
But Scott is the mark of a spammer, a troll, and a conspiracy theorist. Of course, all three of those go hand in hand on online forums.
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03-15-2008, 03:43 PM
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Watch the dust kicked up by the astronaut's feet. Somehow, NASA faking this video went through the trouble to get dust to act only as if it were in a atmosphere-less low-gravity environment
| It doesn't go far enough for the difference to be discernable. It moves slowly because it was shown in slow-motion.
Here's proof that slow-motion was used.
There's a noticeable difference in the body movements in these two clips. (first 6 seconds) http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a11/a11v.1101330.rm
What I hypothesize is that only slow-motion was used in Apollo 11. Later, they improved thier methods of simulating lunar gravity and started using a combination of slow-motion and support wires. The slow-motion in the later missions might not have been exactly half-speed. It might have been sixty five or seventy percent of natural speed. It looked better but it was inconsistent with Apollo 11 footage. The inconsistency is apparent.
At around the 21 minute mark of this video the above footage from Apollo 11 can be seen played at double speed.
It looks just like movement in earth gravity.
Even the people from Clavius had to tap dance around this one. ApolloHoax.net - Difference in Body Movements Quote: |
The simple matter of fact is, he has no idea how that flag began moving. In a moon environment, with a lack of air and therefore lack of air-resistance/friction, things continue moving for a while as according to Newton's first law.
| It moved because of atmosphere. Notice it had stopped moving for a while when the astronaut walked by it. (2 minute 35 second mark)
He was too far away from it to have touched it. Notice the size of his helmet at the beginning of the clip when he's standing right next to the flag. It's less than a quarter of the size of the flag. When he walks by the flag and makes it move, his helmet covers the flag. It wasn't static electricity because when he's even closer to it at the beginning of the clip, it isn't attracted to him at all. It didn't move from soil kicked against the pole because the rod supporting the flag doesn't move when the flag moves. Quote: |
What Scott fails to mention is that the flag remains dead-still for well over thirty minutes of footage, even when astronauts are moving around it.
| When they are moving around it at the beginning of the clip, they aren't moving nearly as fast. It also hadn't totally stopped moving from having been handled. The clip isn't thirty minutes long. Show us the clip you saw that was 30 minutes long. |
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