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Old 03-17-2008, 06:11 PM   #201 (permalink)
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Perhaps tyreay actually read the rebuttal sites, and realizes that it's all a bunch of bunk.

Maybe looking like a fool isn't something he likes.

You, on the other hand.....
Ah, no. I went to all those sites and they didn't prove anything. Kind of funny how the original site, from the OP, was removed from the web(by who I wonder?). I can see no reason to continue to argue something that most of you just refuse (from the get go) to believe just because it offends you that the Government would lie like that to everyone(there by making all of you look pretty foolish). Just prove to me that a person could make it through the radiation belt around the earth in a ship with walls an 8th of a inch thick. It can't be done (a scientific fact) and no one has proven other wise, none of the post or the links.
I have already made my points here anyway, and I haven't seen anyone prove me wrong yet. No sense in continuing to argue when your talking to the wall. I'll just watch and continue to laugh. Great entertainment.



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Old 03-17-2008, 06:13 PM   #202 (permalink)
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Ah, no. I went to all those sites and they didn't prove anything. Kind of funny how the original site, from the OP, was removed from the web(by who I wonder?). I can see no reason to continue to argue something that most of you just refuse (from the get go) to believe just because it offends you that the Government would lie like that to everyone(there by making all of you look pretty foolish). Just prove to me that a person could make it through the radiation belt around the earth in a ship with walls an 8th of a inch thick. It can't be done (a scientific fact) and no one has proven other wise, none of the post or the links.
I have already made my points here anyway, and I haven't seen anyone prove me wrong yet. No sense in continuing to argue when your talking to the wall. I'll just watch and continue to laugh. Great entertainment.
Eh, who's more entertaining, Ty: Scott, or the rest of us who know the moon landing/walks weren't fake?
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Old 03-17-2008, 09:23 PM   #203 (permalink)
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Eh, who's more entertaining, Ty: Scott, or the rest of us who know the moon landing/walks weren't fake?
Well, thats a given, isn't it?
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this has been the most entertaining thread. it is reminiscent of the arguments between creationists and evolutionary scientists. and will probably end the same, with each side confident they have victory.

new to this site, i am impressed by the camaraderie displayed. most forums would have degenerated into personal abuse and comments about parentage by now.

i suppose NASA is faking the Spirit and Opportunity missions too.....
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Old 03-18-2008, 07:51 AM   #205 (permalink)
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Ah, no. I went to all those sites and they didn't prove anything. Kind of funny how the original site, from the OP, was removed from the web(by who I wonder?). I can see no reason to continue to argue something that most of you just refuse (from the get go) to believe just because it offends you that the Government would lie like that to everyone(there by making all of you look pretty foolish). Just prove to me that a person could make it through the radiation belt around the earth in a ship with walls an 8th of a inch thick. It can't be done (a scientific fact) and no one has proven other wise, none of the post or the links.
I have already made my points here anyway, and I haven't seen anyone prove me wrong yet. No sense in continuing to argue when your talking to the wall. I'll just watch and continue to laugh. Great entertainment.
Ty, seriously, just watch a few shows.

The radiation belt that you seem to think is so dangerous isn't. Someone would have to be in that radiation for weeks, even months, before it did any damage. I've shown that.

But you're right, it's wasted. I could trot out thousands of scientists that prove your assumptions wrong, yet you would just claim they are government patsies and shake them off.

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In fact, as stated in this official government report, the scientists working on the problem of Van Allen radiation considered it to be minor compared to other design hurdles to be conquered. Their solution was simple -- avoid exposure by keeping the spacecraft at low Earth orbit altitudes while in parking orbits and then send it through the belts at high speed. The eventual escape speed, some 25,000 miles per hour, would have passed them through the belts in less than an hour, keeping their dose well below 1 rad. There was a modicum of shielding from the equipment, but in the end this was not necessary as the extraordinary transition speed kept the dose below harmful limits -- both going to and returning from the Moon.
As to the issue of solar flares and the danger they presented, there simply weren't any major ones during any of the Apollo missions. So the biggest reason that none of the astronauts died from their radiation exposure was that they simply did not get a bad dose to speak of. Readers wanting more information on this issue should read NASA Technical Notes - NASA TN D-7080, Apollo Experience Report - Protection Against Radiation by Robt. English, Richard E. Benson, J. Bailey, and C. Brown, --Manned Spacecraft Center, Houston, March, 1973."

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this has been the most entertaining thread. it is reminiscent of the arguments between creationists and evolutionary scientists. and will probably end the same, with each side confident they have victory.

new to this site, i am impressed by the camaraderie displayed. most forums would have degenerated into personal abuse and comments about parentage by now.

i suppose NASA is faking the Spirit and Opportunity missions too.....
I didn't ever think that this thread would that entertaining. And I suppose if anybody were to think that all the moon missions and other missions were fake, then perhaps there is no God.
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Well, thats a given, isn't it?
Quite an interesting pandora's box that was opened.





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