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04-17-2007, 08:29 PM
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Review thread starter here: Was The Apollo Moon Landing Fake?
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Originally Posted by tyreay Did our government fake the moon landing? I think so.
This is the biggest government scam of all time. Check this out and tell me what you think. Was The Apollo Moon Landing Fake? | I totally agree!
At the time of the 'supposed' moon landings, USA and USSR were engaged in one of those silly playground 'mine is bigger than yours' debates ! Everyone was talking about going to the moon and USA just had to be first. hence the elaborate hoax.
It was a good one though - fooled a lot of people for long time.
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04-18-2007, 07:53 AM
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04-19-2007, 03:26 AM
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Originally Posted by tadpole256 I still think it's a silly notion that we faked the moon landing. I believe it happened. | So do I. If it were faked, every radio ham in the world would have known instantly - you can fake a communication lag but you can't change the laws of geometry. Triangulation is easy and can't be prevented.
There seems to be a lot of fake evidence, which could just mean that NASA shot some scenes in a studio because it was better quality than the real thing and they wanted to make it look good on television. By analogy, the movie Ben Hur is full of inconsistencies and anachronisms, but that doesn't mean the Roman Empire never existed, does it?
The other, and to me far more likely possibility, is that the fake evidence doesn't come from NASA at all but from the conspiracy theorists themselves: All these incongruities like crosshairs behind the scene and shadows in the wrong place and so forth could easily have been added to genuine footage, especially when you consider that they've only appeared since the required technology to do it has become available to anyone with a computer.
Faking a space mission now is easy, at least for the visual effects, but it wasn't easy in 1969. It wasn't easy in 1978 either, as proven by the laughably unconvincing "Capricorn One". Faking it back then was more difficult than actually doing it.
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04-19-2007, 05:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Rabbit So do I. If it were faked, every radio ham in the world would have known instantly - you can fake a communication lag but you can't change the laws of geometry. Triangulation is easy and can't be prevented.. | Triangulation is only possible with a directional antenna, and with readings from more than one location, thus the word triangulate.
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Originally Posted by Rabbit There seems to be a lot of fake evidence, which could just mean that NASA shot some scenes in a studio because it was better quality than the real thing and they wanted to make it look good on television. By analogy, the movie Ben Hur is full of inconsistencies and anachronisms, but that doesn't mean the Roman Empire never existed, does it? | Yes there is alot of evidence that some shots were shot in a studio. There is also alot of evidence, on the supplied site, that there was no shots taken on the moon. Also comparing inconsistencies from a known movie to a actual even in history really does fit very well here as support for the moom landing. Quote: |
Originally Posted by Rabbit The other, and to me far more likely possibility, is that the fake evidence doesn't come from NASA at all but from the conspiracy theorists themselves: All these incongruities like crosshairs behind the scene and shadows in the wrong place and so forth could easily have been added to genuine footage, especially when you consider that they've only appeared since the required technology to do it has become available to anyone with a computer.
Faking a space mission now is easy, at least for the visual effects, but it wasn't easy in 1969. It wasn't easy in 1978 either, as proven by the laughably unconvincing "Capricorn One". Faking it back then was more difficult than actually doing it. | These bits of evidence have been pointed to long before PCs. I actually read a book on this in the early 80's.
Of course everyone is entitle to there opinions, but the proof is pretty strong, to dismiss this totally. Most of the footage from the landing is quite laughable, actually.
'The earth has a band of radiation around her, 500 mies out, that would take 10 feet of lead, to protect a human from'. This is a statement by a NASA scientist.
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Originally Posted by tyreay Triangulation is only possible with a directional antenna, and with readings from more than one location, thus the word triangulate. | Yes, I know, and with thousands of radio hams all over the world listening to the spacecraft, all it takes is for two of them far enough apart to form a useful baseline and compare notes. If the source of the transmission wasn't where it was supposed to be, they would have known. Quote: |
Yes there is alot of evidence that some shots were shot in a studio. There is also alot of evidence, on the supplied site, that there was no shots taken on the moon. Also comparing inconsistencies from a known movie to a actual even in history really does fit very well here as support for the moom landing.
| My point with that analogy is simply that faking the evidence does not prove that the mission itself was faked. In addition, the existence of fake evidence casts at least as much suspicion on the conspiracy theorists as it does on NASA. How better to discredit something real than to manufacture fake evidence of it? Quote: |
These bits of evidence have been pointed to long before PCs. I actually read a book on this in the early 80's.
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Of course everyone is entitle to there opinions, but the proof is pretty strong, to dismiss this totally. Most of the footage from the landing is quite laughable, actually.
| That's not "proof". If I were to make a paper plane and film it, then tell you it was footage of a test flight of a real plane, you'd find it laughable, but you wouldn't know whether I or someone else had actually built a real one and NOT filmed it. Quote: |
'The earth has a band of radiation around her, 500 mies out, that would take 10 feet of lead, to protect a human from'. This is a statement by a NASA scientist.
| It's a very unscientific statement. 10 feet would protect... for how long? How much shielding do you need for a week in space? Or an hour? Or a year? Do you know? I don't, but if that "scientist" is trying to imply that anything less than 10 feet of lead will be lethal in all cases, that would mean every manned space mission there's ever been has been a fake and that, frankly, is impossible.
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04-19-2007, 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by tyreay 'The earth has a band of radiation around her, 500 mies out, that would take 10 feet of lead, to protect a human from'. This is a statement by a NASA scientist. | Here is an interesting analysis concerning the Van Allen Belts and the Apollo missions: MAD Scientist: The Van Allen Belts and Travel to the Moon |
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05-11-2007, 02:42 PM
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I asked my Physics professor (who worked for NASA) last year and he told me that we did indeed land on the moon.
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05-11-2007, 03:54 PM
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Level up: 44%, 94 Points needed | | I believe that the moon landing did happen too....
The problem I have is that we havnt gone back there...we only explored that one little spot of the landing. WHAT ABOUT THE REST?????
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