Research The Holocaust. Then come back and explain to me how - in Sam Hill - you could POSSIBLY say The Protocols Of The Elders of Zion are irrelevant.

It is a FORGED DOCUMENT - A COMPLETE FARCE - that has sparked hatred and genocide for OVER A CENTURY.

MUSLIMS ARE BELIEVING A LIE.

Precisely. Why are they believing a lie??? That is what the real debate should be about. Not about whether these documents are forged or not

The fact that Muslims are believing a lie is the Muslims' problem.

There are a LOT of Muslims believing a LOT of lies - primary among them is the LIE that Israel has no right to exist as a sovereign nation, in the exact location they existed for thousands of years before the religion of Islam even existed.

Actually it's quite obviously your problem. you know terrorism?? it's as much a function of muslim soceity as is this willingness to believe a lie. It's got the same roots. If you wanna deal with terrorism in a less medieval way you might wanna ask this question.

hah... then get the hell out and give your 50 states back to the people who were there before you. It is not a valid argument. So let's not use it huh?

I agree with Hkbajwa regarding the Protocols as a symptom of hatred. Anti-Jewish sentiments have run high in Islamic nations for as long as anti-Jewish sentiments have. The Jews are invariably blamed for history's problems by the majority group, since we're usually a minority. Muslims didn't write the Proticols, Christians did.

That being said, is it too much to ask to have a tiny sliver of land where we're not a minority? I mean, for God's sake, Israel is the size of New Jersey. Very few people are in favor of killing all of the Arabs, which is probably the main separation between what happened in America and what is happening now. That, and the Indians didn't blow up cafes and buses full of children.

It may not be much to talk about, but there is no nation on the planet that would concede even a square foot of territory without serious reservations and without ensuring that their sovereignity is not threatened. It is not a small matter.

Besides if it's just a matter of the size of NJ then it could have placed on the territories of one of the nations that supported its creation.

Be that as it may, Israel is a reality and the muslims are just going to have to learn to live with it. However it is not easy when all they see is Israel with overwhelming firepower , suppresing the palestinians. If the palestinians resort to terrorist means, i do not find it at all suprising. When you have no weapons, several million refugees, at the mercy of an outsider, constant encroachments upon your land, attacks upon your sovreignty in helicopters, and nobody in the world willing to accept your legally and fairly elected government, can you blame some misguided youths falling for the rhetoric of religious power brokers?

While i do not find it acceptable to hate an ethnicity or religion, let's not pretend that the palestinians have no reason to dislike the jews. This is not a matter of who's good and who's bad. It's just a statement of fact.
When muslims in the rest of the world rant about jews, that is more a function of their own lousy situations. Muslim countries have a ton of problems and sometimes it's just easier to blame somebody else. What they should do is stop whining about the jews and start working on their internal problems.
However for the palestinians, the jews ARE an internal problem.

Note i said jews and not israel as i equate the two. The reason being that i have heard that the Israeli constitution does not allow for anybody being a full israeli citizen unless they are jewish. Is that true? If so i foresee another problem. if no then ma bad

Absolutely false. 100% wrong.

The Protocols were based on a political satire, and came out of Russia. It had nothing to do with Christianity.



...on the other hand, yes - let Israel exist as a nation. Period. The Muslims need to stop the suicide bombers. Until that happens, they will NEVER be taken seriously, or thought of as anything but savages.

Guess this was a tough poing to argue against Good job Jefferson

It may not be much to talk about, but there is no nation on the planet that would concede even a square foot of territory without serious reservations and without ensuring that their sovereignity is not threatened. It is not a small matter.

Besides if it's just a matter of the size of NJ then it could have placed on the territories of one of the nations that supported its creation.

Be that as it may, Israel is a reality and the muslims are just going to have to learn to live with it. However it is not easy when all they see is Israel with overwhelming firepower , suppresing the palestinians. If the palestinians resort to terrorist means, i do not find it at all suprising. When you have no weapons, several million refugees, at the mercy of an outsider, constant encroachments upon your land, attacks upon your sovreignty in helicopters, and nobody in the world willing to accept your legally and fairly elected government, can you blame some misguided youths falling for the rhetoric of religious power brokers?

While i do not find it acceptable to hate an ethnicity or religion, let's not pretend that the palestinians have no reason to dislike the jews. This is not a matter of who's good and who's bad. It's just a statement of fact.
When muslims in the rest of the world rant about jews, that is more a function of their own lousy situations. Muslim countries have a ton of problems and sometimes it's just easier to blame somebody else. What they should do is stop whining about the jews and start working on their internal problems.
However for the palestinians, the jews ARE an internal problem.

Note i said jews and not israel as i equate the two. The reason being that i have heard that the Israeli constitution does not allow for anybody being a full israeli citizen unless they are jewish. Is that true? If so i foresee another problem. if no then ma bad

Political satire? No. The protocols were a propoganda piece written by Czar Alexander's henchmen in order to create a scapegoat to distract Russian peasants from the problems that the country was riddled with.