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NSA wiretapping: a bigger issue than thought

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View Poll Results: Should the NSA keep up its wiretapping of American phone conversations?
Sure why not. Anything to catch terrorists. 2 18.18%
Yeah, but it should be limited to calls made outside the country, not within. 1 9.09%
I have no idea. 0 0%
Keep the government out of my life. 8 72.73%
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Old 05-31-2006, 03:08 PM   #51 (permalink)
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Clinton was impeached, but not removed from office.
Bush could easily be impeached, but not removed from office.
But actually STARTING the impeachment process is the hurdle which the Republicans are blocking...


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The Democrats won't bring up impeachment charges because they know they'd only be making asses of themselves, and gaurantee Republican landslides in 2006 & 2008.
Yeah.
Bush has an approval rating that is positively IN THE TOILET, but the public would obviously backlash if the democrats got an impeachment proceeding started.

Sometime, you are completely divorced from all reality...
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Old 05-31-2006, 03:09 PM   #52 (permalink)
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But actually STARTING the impeachment process is the hurdle which the Republicans are blocking...
Prove it.
Old 05-31-2006, 08:46 PM   #53 (permalink)
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Prove it.
You LOVE demanding others "prove" things...
But when it comes to YOUR proof, you habitually fall short. Completely ineffectual at proving almost anything...

How can one prove what you request in the first place?

And, as you claim, if the democrats would assure defeat in 2006, 2008 if they started impeachment proceedings, why don't the republicans urge democrats to proceed?
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Old 05-31-2006, 08:54 PM   #54 (permalink)
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You LOVE demanding others "prove" things...
But when it comes to YOUR proof, you habitually fall short. Completely ineffectual at proving almost anything...

How can one prove what you request in the first place?

And, as you claim, if the democrats would assure defeat in 2006, 2008 if they started impeachment proceedings, why don't the republicans urge democrats to proceed?
You're claiming tht the Republicans are preventing the Democrats from bringing impeachment charges against Bush.

That's BS. Absolute, moronic BS.

I'm challenging you to prove it, in order to make the stupidity of your statement even clearer. And I succeeded.
Old 05-31-2006, 09:12 PM   #55 (permalink)
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You're claiming tht the Republicans are preventing the Democrats from bringing impeachment charges against Bush.
That's BS. Absolute, moronic BS.
No. It's entirely rationale.

If YOU wanted to get something done, and you KNEW that you couldn't get it past the vote due to politics, what would be the purpose in proceeding with guaranteed failure?
ESPECIALLY when failing at it would just make you look bad and incapable of getting something done.


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I'm challenging you to prove it, in order to make the stupidity of your statement even clearer. And I succeeded.
You asked me to prove something.
I asked you HOW anybody could prove what you requested.

You failed to answer the question.
And you don't think THAT is clear?

It's painfully obvious that anything ANYBODY says to you just reconfirms your views in life, even when they demonstrate the futility of your position and completely contradict you...
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Old 06-01-2006, 10:12 AM   #56 (permalink)
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No. It's entirely rationale.

If YOU wanted to get something done, and you KNEW that you couldn't get it past the vote due to politics, what would be the purpose in proceeding with guaranteed failure?
ESPECIALLY when failing at it would just make you look bad and incapable of getting something done.



You asked me to prove something.
I asked you HOW anybody could prove what you requested.

You failed to answer the question.
And you don't think THAT is clear?

It's painfully obvious that anything ANYBODY says to you just reconfirms your views in life, even when they demonstrate the futility of your position and completely contradict you...
Still no legally impeachable offenses.

Yadda yadda yadda. Keep droning on to yourself.
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Still no legally impeachable offenses.
Yadda yadda yadda. Keep droning on to yourself.
When Bush ordered people to invade the privacy of Americans without a warrant, against the law, THAT was impeachable.

Do you really think it looks smart for you to just repeat the same nonsense over and over again while you avoid the arguments posed to you?
Nobody can be swayed by such an incapability to debate the issue as you demonstrate. People who already held your belief before may agree with you, but that's about it...
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Old 06-01-2006, 01:10 PM   #58 (permalink)
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When Bush ordered people to invade the privacy of Americans without a warrant, against the law, THAT was impeachable.

Do you really think it looks smart for you to just repeat the same nonsense over and over again while you avoid the arguments posed to you?
Nobody can be swayed by such an incapability to debate the issue as you demonstrate. People who already held your belief before may agree with you, but that's about it...

Still no legally impeachable offenses.

What kind of a MINDLESS IDIOT are you?



No wait... You've answered that question many times.
Old 06-01-2006, 02:04 PM   #59 (permalink)
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Still no legally impeachable offenses.
There is a world of difference inbetween "legally impeachable offenses"...
... and offenses which haven't even been brought forth for trial.

I've been showing you a legally impeachable offense.
Your only attempt at a point is that the impeachment proceedings have not been brought forward, and the reason for that has already been addressed...

But please. Keep repeating yourself and ignoring everything I'm saying.
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There is a world of difference inbetween "legally impeachable offenses"...
... and offenses which haven't even been brought forth for trial.

I've been showing you a legally impeachable offense.
Your only attempt at a point is that the impeachment proceedings have not been brought forward, and the reason for that has already been addressed...

But please. Keep repeating yourself and ignoring everything I'm saying.
You cited what is - IN YOUR LITTLE OPINION - impeachable offenses.


Obviously, you are wrong - as evidenced by the lack of the REAL lawyers and legal experts bringing impeachment charges.

1+1=2 - except in your warped little world.
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