The Truth Of 9/11 - Page 2

foundit66 · 10-13-2006, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Nebraskaboy

I saw that South Park last night, all I could think was, what the hell? Then it all pulled together at the end.

In some ways, one of the best episodes...

Making fun of "conspiracy" theory beliefs because our government isn't talented enough to pull off such a "conspiracy"...
... but they ARE behind the "conspiracy" of saying that 9/11 was a conspiracy?

Ergo, LucidThots would be working FOR the Jews by claiming that the government was responsible...

Jefferson · 10-13-2006, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by tadpole256

No no no...

The laser beams were from the planet Zoltaire!

Zorton... Ha! You think people will fall for anything don't you...

Crap!

Busted...

alias · 10-14-2006, 04:57 PM

Right Wing Nut House » 9/11 TIN FOIL HATS ARE MELTING

"Dwyer’s piece should be required reading for every school kid in America so that future generations will see these 9/11 fantasies for what they truly are; pathetic mouthings of desperately unbalanced people whose “evidence” depends more on wishful thinking than empirical proof."

satv365 · 10-25-2006, 04:53 PM

Well, lets look at some facts.

During the initial 911 investigation. NYC police claimed they found a passport of one of the suspected terrorists on the street. Supposedly it flew it out the window as the plane crashed into the tower. The terrorist on the passport, was later found to be alive and well living in the middle east. Evidence of planting evidence.

Also, a firemen while shooting for a european documentary film, who was assisting with rescue work before the towers fell, claimed he heard explosions going off on different levels. The firemen was threatened to be fired if he went anymore public with his claims.

Various politicians, and buissiness leaders where contacted the day before and warned not to fly to new yors city.

Then you have the impractibility of the size of the hole in the side of the pentagon compared to that of a plane smashing into it.

Various engineers claimed that the Towers should not have collapsed. Osama Bin Laden, in an All Jazeera interview said he wasnt behind 911, and that it was un-islamic to attack civilians.

You also have past plans of the government to implement terrorist attacks on our own civilians to get the public behind a war. OPERATION NORTHWOODS. A plan to hijack commercial airliners, crash them, and then blame them on Cuba to get people to support a war against Cuba.

All these facts (and you can check them ) bring up the possibility that it wasnt neccesarily Osama behind it. Was it our Government, or people behind the Government? I dont know.

I do howevor believe that there is a lot of unanswered questions that need to be addressed. If in fact our own government was behind it, we need to take a serious look at where our liberty went, and if there is time to stop this.

alias · 10-25-2006, 06:33 PM

It's a vast right-wing conspiracy. Hillary said so. Therefore, it must be. I got my secret decoder ring. Did you get yours?

satv365 · 10-25-2006, 11:51 PM

Im far from beleive it was the govt's doing. I do beleive that information is being witheld from the people. There is undisputable evidence that it is. Seizing and tampering the pentagon security tapes, etc.

I beleive GW wouldve invaded Iraq with or without the peoples backing. So I see no point for him to do this.

Just admit that there is need for the release of all the information.

Jefferson · 10-26-2006, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by satv365

Well, lets look at some facts.

During the initial 911 investigation. NYC police claimed they found a passport of one of the suspected terrorists on the street. Supposedly it flew it out the window as the plane crashed into the tower. The terrorist on the passport, was later found to be alive and well living in the middle east. Evidence of planting evidence.
Who was this "terrorist"? Please give more information.

Also, a firemen while shooting for a european documentary film, who was assisting with rescue work before the towers fell, claimed he heard explosions going off on different levels. The firemen was threatened to be fired if he went anymore public with his claims.
Who was this fireman? I'd like more information. And to say that "he can't tell, because he'll be fired" is NOT an adequate answer. Also, is it not possible that these "explosions" could have been anything from concrete breaking, to windows buckling, to debris hitting the ground? Just wondering.

Various politicians, and buissiness leaders where contacted the day before and warned not to fly to new yors city.
I'm not buying that one at all! There has to be proof of this if you're going to make that claim!

Then you have the impractibility of the size of the hole in the side of the pentagon compared to that of a plane smashing into it.
The Pentagon is built like a modern-day fortress. A jetliner would NOT pierce the Pentagon building the way it would go through the glass and thin outer shell of the WTC Towers.

Various engineers claimed that the Towers should not have collapsed. Osama Bin Laden, in an All Jazeera interview said he wasnt behind 911, and that it was un-islamic to attack civilians.
"Various engineers"... Yeah, who were they, and on what grounds do they make that claim? Also, if I remember correctly, bin Laden DID take credit for the attacks - and it is not at all "un-Islamic" to attack civilians. Have you been paying attention to what the Islamic suicide bombers are doing in Iraq? Are you going to claim they are NOT targetting civilians?

You also have past plans of the government to implement terrorist attacks on our own civilians to get the public behind a war. OPERATION NORTHWOODS. A plan to hijack commercial airliners, crash them, and then blame them on Cuba to get people to support a war against Cuba.
So... a plan that was never carried out 40 years prior is evidence of the same plan being carried out in 2001? No, there's no leap of logic there!

All these facts (and you can check them ) bring up the possibility that it wasnt neccesarily Osama behind it. Was it our Government, or people behind the Government? I dont know.
It is absolutely POSSIBLE that Osama was not behind the attacks. This is true. But there is also the POSSIBILITY that it was ME behind the attacks.

I do howevor believe that there is a lot of unanswered questions that need to be addressed. If in fact our own government was behind it, we need to take a serious look at where our liberty went, and if there is time to stop this.
Again, this is true. There are many unanswered questions. However, some of the questions that people are claiming to be unanswered, have actually been answered. It's just that the answer is not to these people's liking.

Personally, I'd like to have a little more than personal opinion on this one...

satv365 · 10-26-2006, 04:29 PM

Numerous other firefighters, in oral histories obtained by the NY Times under the Freedom of Information Act, testified vividly to what they perceived as explosions

The Firefighters’ Testimony to Explosions in the Twin Towers" which were released by FDNY in August 2005 under order from the New York Court of Appeals. Testimonies were resumed by Griffin, David Ray in "Explosive Testimony: Revelations about the Twin Towers in the 9/11 Oral Histories,"

"Bush asks Daschle to limit Sept. 11 probes"

"Bush Opposes 9/11 Query Panel"

"Whistleblower Complains of FBI Obstruction"

"9-11 Commission Funding Woes"

"Bush: Documents sought by 9/11 commission 'very sensitive'"

"9/11 commission finishes Bush, Cheney session"

lIST OF Supposed HiJackers still alive.

Abdulaziz Al Omari
al-Mihdhar

satv365 · 10-26-2006, 04:33 PM

Suspicions had increased further after Israeli newspaper Yediot Aharonot revealed that the Shabak prevented Israeli premier Ariel Sharon from traveling to New York and particularly to the city's eastern coast to participate in a festival organized by the Zionist organizations in support of Israel. Aharon Bernie, the commentator at the newspaper, brought up the issue and came up with a negative conclusion, saying "no answer". He then asked about the clue behind the Shabak's position in preventing Sharon's participation, and again without giving an answer

One example of people being told to stay away from New York. I will gladly provide some more facts if you give me some time to dig up links, and review quotes and check them.

Katczinsky · 10-28-2006, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Jefferson

The Pentagon is built like a modern-day fortress. A jetliner would NOT pierce the Pentagon building the way it would go through the glass and thin outer shell of the WTC Towers.

Exactly. The wound in the Pentagon was a small focalized area that penetrated multiple layers of reinforced concrete and penetrated the last in an even more focalized point. Large bulky passanger jets don't do this, esspecially with a blunt, weak, aluminum nose. If any penetration were to happen it would be a larger hole taking out a large chunk of the reinforced building's constitution...only things with penetrators can do what happened to the pentagon (hence the missile theory).

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