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Old 10-28-2006, 01:03 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Exactly. The wound in the Pentagon was a small focalized area that penetrated multiple layers of reinforced concrete and penetrated the last in an even more focalized point. Large bulky passanger jets don't do this, esspecially with a blunt, weak, aluminum nose. If any penetration were to happen it would be a larger hole taking out a large chunk of the reinforced building's constitution...only things with penetrators can do what happened to the pentagon (hence the missile theory).
You're arguing against yourself here. But that's nothing new.


I am pointing out the reason the same aircraft - filled with fuel - could do so much damage to a commercial skyscraper, and so little damage to a fortress.

Sorry you couldn't follow the logic.
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Old 10-28-2006, 02:23 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Where is the plane, the pilots, and the passengers Katz?
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Where is the plane, the pilots, and the passengers Katz?

Good question...
Old 10-30-2006, 08:58 PM   #24 (permalink)
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You're arguing against yourself here. But that's nothing new.


I am pointing out the reason the same aircraft - filled with fuel - could do so much damage to a commercial skyscraper, and so little damage to a fortress.

Sorry you couldn't follow the logic.
No, I followed your logic quite well. I am making an argument entirely different than yours. Apparently you don't get what I'm saying at all.

I'm not arguing against myself.



This is the resulting wound in one of the inner most layers of the Pentagon. Because the Pentagon is reinforced as opposed to the WTC Towers, it would rather take out a large chunk of the building as the force of the plane is distributed across a large area, and as the building attempts to hold its general constitution. As a reinforced building, the pentagon was designed against small local points of penetration, and that is exactly what happened on 9/11.
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Where is the plane, the pilots, and the passengers Katz?
I never said I had all the answers; instead only that we don't have all the answers.
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Exactly. The wound in the Pentagon was a small focalized area that penetrated multiple layers of reinforced concrete and penetrated the last in an even more focalized point. Large bulky passanger jets don't do this, esspecially with a blunt, weak, aluminum nose. If any penetration were to happen it would be a larger hole taking out a large chunk of the reinforced building's constitution...only things with penetrators can do what happened to the pentagon (hence the missile theory).
And you base this off of what prior event? Was there another plane that crashed into the Pentagon you witnessed this from that I don't know about?
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No, I followed your logic quite well. I am making an argument entirely different than yours. Apparently you don't get what I'm saying at all.

I'm not arguing against myself.



This is the resulting wound in one of the inner most layers of the Pentagon. Because the Pentagon is reinforced as opposed to the WTC Towers, it would rather take out a large chunk of the building as the force of the plane is distributed across a large area, and as the building attempts to hold its general constitution. As a reinforced building, the pentagon was designed against small local points of penetration, and that is exactly what happened on 9/11.
Are you a structural engineer?

No, you're not.

You're an anti-Bush pro-Cindy Sheehanite who WANTS there to be "something" here.


So you have a "supposed" picture of an "inner wall" in the Pentagon. What does that prove?


And by the way, you might want to ask yourself why there's a "NO PARKING" sign hanging on this "inner most layers of the Pentagon."

You're free to take a paper towel and wipe the egg of your face now.
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I never said I had all the answers; instead only that we don't have all the answers.
I think we have all the answers that pertain to what happened that day. 4 planes were hijacked by terrorists in an attack on America.
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Are you a structural engineer?

No, you're not.
You're right, I'm not. But neither exactly are you. And avoiding the message by attacking the messenger is not a valid argument in the first place.

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You're an anti-Bush pro-Cindy Sheehanite who WANTS there to be "something" here.
Name calling is not a valid argument either.

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So you have a "supposed" picture of an "inner wall" in the Pentagon. What does that prove?

And by the way, you might want to ask yourself why there's a "NO PARKING" sign hanging on this "inner most layers of the Pentagon."

You're free to take a paper towel and wipe the egg of your face now.
Before you make an ass of yourself by constantly insulting people, perhaps you should get your facts straight. The photographs of this hole punched in the C-Ring were made and released by the Department of Defense. Why there is a No Parking sign is a mystery to me, as I don't work at the Pentagon. But there are open spaces between the rings and I would assume vehicles may go in those spaces.
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You're right, I'm not. But neither exactly are you. And avoiding the message by attacking the messenger is not a valid argument in the first place.

Name calling is not a valid argument either.

Before you make an ass of yourself by constantly insulting people, perhaps you should get your facts straight. The photographs of this hole punched in the C-Ring were made and released by the Department of Defense. Why there is a No Parking sign is a mystery to me, as I don't work at the Pentagon. But there are open spaces between the rings and I would assume vehicles may go in those spaces.

I don't give a crap WHERE you got that picture. YOU are the one who is - in an earlier post - claiming it was a hole in the "inner most circle" of the Pentagon.

I'm calling your bluff.

You are WRONG. There are no "No Parking" signs on inner walls of the Pentagon.


Geez Louise, you really need to do some homework before you post crap like that! Figure out where your pictures are coming from! 9-11 Research: An Independent Investigation of the 9-11-2001 Attack
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